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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Federal judges are appointed by the federal government. If the state of Texas refused to allow appointed federal judges to take the bench, the president would call in the national guard and they would prevent any law enforcement under the jurisdiction of the state of Texas from interfering with the judges. As to the American public, I would imagine at least 70% would support the federal governments actions in such a case.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Technically, that is the senate holding up the process, not the state government of Texas.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    that is a court decision..

    not what founders stated and what was taught to americans before the civil war...which is what i am dealing with....the federal government is currently engaged in powers it was never delegated in the constitution, like regulation of comerce inside of states, which the court granted to them in 1942.

    it is the court, which has caused a great corruption of our constitution
    With all respect then Ernst, it seems what you're saying is you do not want to abide by the Court or rule of law, which leaves the following options (to my non-lawyer mind):

    - Abide by the Court
    - Legally challenge the ruling (through a lower court case leading back to the Supreme Court)
    - Change the law (Constitutional Amendment, in this case)
    - Civil Disobedience
    - Armed Revolution

    At one point, we've done them all in this land.

    So what's your next move, and how do you plan to get there?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by chomsky View Post
    with all respect then ernst, it seems what you're saying is you do not want to abide by the court or rule of law, which leaves the following options (to my non-lawyer mind):

    - abide by the court
    - legally challenge the ruling (through a lower court case leading back to the supreme court)
    - change the law (constitutional amendment, in this case)
    - civil disobedience
    - armed revolution

    at one point, we've done them all in this land.

    So what's your next move, and how do you plan to get there?
    what i am saying is this....i gave the founders words, and what was taught, and it is not what the court is saying.

    Now when it comes to the constitution, who is closer to it ...the court or the founders?

    iam not advocating anything like seccesion...what i advocate for is .....rights.......which is always the center of my arugment.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    I support the right for Texans to secede, they can all just walk south into the Gulf of Mexico. The land, however, and most things on it belong to the United States, they are not free to take it with them. Their personal belongings are theirs. The land, the infrastructure, etc. are not.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Now if you asked about Florida, hellyeaz.
    Make the whole state the Conch Republic.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    united states does not give up real estate...sorry we already had a war because of this
    I find the lack of logic in humans most disturbing...

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    But if they did it, Texas could act like a nutter magnet.
    Not for long. I doubt it would take more than a couple weeks before they beg to rejoin.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by plutonium View Post
    united states does not give up real estate...sorry we already had a war because of this
    So greed is an acceptable motivation to hold a population of 30 million hostage?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not for long. I doubt it would take more than a couple weeks before they beg to rejoin.
    I would envision close ties with the USA, similar to a European Union type agreement with strong economic and cultural ties, while giving each side the space they desire to determine their own destiny.

    In a larger sense, there is some credence to the argument that a government which is closer to home is better able to service the needs of said population, and one can rightly question at what point a nation of 300+ million that encompasses an entire continent becomes too large to govern in a way that protects the interests of each of those 300 million dwellers.

    We're a diverse country with diverse histories and divergent ideals. Perhaps rather than continue on our present course of infighting and polarization, it would be wise to consider alternative ways to divide up governance in such a way that all parties can have their interests fairly represented.

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