View Poll Results: Would you support the decision of Texas to peacefully and democratically secede, if voted upon

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Thread: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Without recognizing the basic needs of survival a government could control the citizens by their bellies. Having a right to life covers basic survival needs. Turning that need into partisan hackery is dishonest. Certainly you wouldnt want to be barred from eating or from anything that will kill you. There is plenty of food to go around in the US that no one should starve. Your rights end where anothers would be harmed if you asserted your right. Claiming that someone worked producing a food product does not give anyone the right to tell a child that they are going to starve to death because someone else had a job and they dont want to be forced to give anything to anyone. Where could such people lead us?

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    Well, we have a "natural need", that's beyond our control, for food, water, and shelter. See my post 1094.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I do have a natural right to it because government wouldn't protect the guy who owns it. Finders Keepers...
    sorry no.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you have natural right/ ability to seek those commodities, you don't have a right to have them handed to you on a sliver platter
    That also means i cannot have those rights denied to me or taken away.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    That also means i cannot have those rights denied to me or taken away.
    no one can stop you [hinder] from seeking... food water shelter....but you cannot demand [force] anyone to give, anyone into commerce, so you can possess those things.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sorry no.
    Yep.....

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Yep.....
    no...you need to understand rights...which you do not.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    I'd love to break the US into red and blue states. then the blues would all starve to death without us and good riddance.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    no...you need to understand rights...which you do not.
    Of course I do. You have repeatedly shown that you do not.

    Proprietary estoppel is one of four principal mechanisms to acquire rights over property, seen particularly in the case of land (the others being a contract, an implied trust, and adverse possession)

    Adverse possession is a method of acquiring title to real property by possession for a statutory period under certain conditions - proof of non-permissive use which is actual, open and notorious, exclusive, adverse, and continuous for the statutory period.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Of course I do. You have repeatedly shown that you do not.

    Proprietary estoppel is one of four principal mechanisms to acquire rights over property, seen particularly in the case of land (the others being a contract, an implied trust, and adverse possession)

    Adverse possession is a method of acquiring title to real property by possession for a statutory period under certain conditions - proof of non-permissive use which is actual, open and notorious, exclusive, adverse, and continuous for the statutory period.
    ......what you have posted deals in legal rights.....not natural rights of what was being discussed......
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    ......what you have posted deals in legal rights.....not natural rights of what was being discussed......
    Natural rights don't exist except where no government exists to intervene.

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