View Poll Results: Would you support the decision of Texas to peacefully and democratically secede, if voted upon

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If you have a natural right to food, water, and shelter, and can't provide them for yourself, does that mean that someone else has a natural obligation to provide them for you?
    maybe but I don't believe in natural rights so that would be a matter of opinion

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you have natural right to seek those things........you don't have a natural right to have them HANDED TO YOU.

    FOOD WATER, SHELTER......have to be grown, collected, and built......therefore someone had to spent their time /labor to do those things, you believe you have a right to another person's time/ labor they spent to grown, collect and built things?
    but that's all this is a matter of belief

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    again you have no idea, where you are...
    That nonsense post makes no sense to the post of mine you reproduced as the lead to it.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    If you have a natural right to food, water, and shelter, and can't provide them for yourself, does that mean that someone else has a natural obligation to provide them for you?
    I don't have a natural right to food, water, or shelter. "I have a natural need for food, water, and shelter". My chances for survival without food, water, and shelter are slim.

    If I can't provide those "needs" for myself, then I will most likely seek assistance from some source (person or institution). If I can't get assistance then my "natural instinct to survive" will provoke me to infringe on others in whatever way necessary to survive.

    If I get caught infringing on others, I'll be subject to consequences by some authority, which represents the citizens. If authorities choose to take action against me. I'll probably be incarcerated. If enough people cause authorities to take action, it will require authorities to grow in size. For the authority to grow in size in order to enforce consequences, the citizens within my society will have to provide their personal resources to support the increase in the size of the authorities so the authorities can protect the citizens from people like me.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    but that's all this is a matter of belief
    oh?...tell me do you believe you have a right to property which does not belong to you?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    that nonsense post makes no sense to the post of mine you reproduced as the lead to it.
    you need to stop jumping into post, which you have no idea of what is going on.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    oh?...tell me do you believe you have a right to property which does not belong to you?
    I do, and have for 25 years. All I can say is: "Thank You Estopple Laws".

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you need to stop jumping into post, which you have no idea of what is going on.
    that nonsense post makes no sense to the post of mine you reproduced as the lead to it.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    I do, and have for 25 years. All I can say is: "Thank You Estopple Laws".
    explain... i'm curious.

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    explain... i'm curious.
    There is a road that is adjacent to my property that goes to a portion of a river that I live on for 25 years. I have used the road for so long to get to an area of the river someone else owns. And I've not been denied access - nor has it ever been gated - and I've actually improved it. So now the owner can't prevent me from using it - or anybody that I give permission to use it.

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