View Poll Results: Would you support the decision of Texas to peacefully and democratically secede, if voted upon

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Thread: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    no i am up to speed because i do a lot of reading on our founders, the documents.

    you need to keep in mind, that in constitutional law there are only natural rights and privileges...

    you need to actually read my posts to

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    well tell me, if that were to happen and people just think things up, why is there no right to food water shelter since people have the power to think them up.

    as stated rights are recognized, they are not created by law because law is made by man, if man could create his own rights, then man can control rights.

    many of you on this forum, believe rights are created by man, but you seem to always forget that IF you have the power to create you have the power to destroy also.

    for the power of rights created to be in the hands of man, would be the most dangerous of thing, for it will lead to our destruction., and those that subscribe to this notion are setting a path for the destruction.
    you need to read this post of yours

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    wrong...in the constitution there are natural rights and privileges...only

    privileges today are called civil rights/legal rights...these are created by man, and called positive law.

    natural rights are not created by man, but only recognized by man, and are not positive law.

    privileges are created in statute law..no were in statute will you find a natural right for speech, prayer., protest, firearm, privacy.
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    rights can be recognized by the constitution or the USSC, but are not created by law.

    the right to privacy does not exist in the constitution, no where is it written , no where is it created by law of congress.

    the USSC recognized the right to privacy, ...which is unwritten law...its a negative right.

    In the United States, unwritten law takes on a variety of forms. In Constitutional Law the Supreme Court has ruled that the due process clause of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the U.S. Constitution protects the right to privacy even though the word privacy is not mentioned in the written text of the Constitution.

    unwritten law legal definition of unwritten law
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    since rights are only recognized by the constitution, and not granted by government, congress has no power over them.

    you don't have power over what you don't control.

    the constitution is federalism, the separation of powers between state governments and the federal government with the federal government having few powers, and the bill of rights are restrictions on the federal government to make no laws concerning the recognized rights
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you have no right to food water shelter in america, because they are commodities and have to be created by someone.......do you think you have a right to steal property of the people?

    you do not understand your rights at all.

    so American law not recognizing a natural right for food water and shelter in its laws doesn't mean those are not natural rights according to you

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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    so American law not recognizing a natural right for food water and shelter in its laws doesn't mean those are not natural rights according to you
    If you have a natural right to food, water, and shelter, and can't provide them for yourself, does that mean that someone else has a natural obligation to provide them for you?
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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    so American law not recognizing a natural right for food water and shelter in its laws doesn't mean those are not natural rights according to you
    you have natural right to seek those things........you don't have a natural right to have them HANDED TO YOU.

    FOOD WATER, SHELTER......have to be grown, collected, and built......therefore someone had to spent their time /labor to do those things, you believe you have a right to another person's time/ labor they spent to grown, collect and built things?


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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    and this 1 to
    my post are clear, but you do not have an understanding of rights.


    no right..... can lay a cost or burden on another Citizen.


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    Re: Would you support the right of Texas to secede?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Which of the seceding states had a referendum for citizens to vote in expressing this consent the citizenry?
    again you have no idea, where you are...


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