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    Re: Knowledge or wealth

    I could never be happy with being ignorant even more so with being wealthy and ignorant as that can be dangerous . Besides a fool and his money are soon parted
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    Re: Knowledge or wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by Un biased View Post
    I could never be happy with being ignorant even more so with being wealthy and ignorant as that can be dangerous . Besides a fool and his money are soon parted
    Hmmmm? They still pay the First Moron GWBush to give speeches.

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    Re: Knowledge or wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If I had the choice between the two I would pick ignorant and wealthy. I know what it is like being poor. I know what it is like living paycheck to paycheck.
    Ain't that the truth. A lot of people on here seem to be ignorant of what that is really like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    If I had the choice between the two I would pick ignorant and wealthy. I know what it is like being poor. I know what it is like living paycheck to paycheck.
    You have made an honest statement and that is surely the choice that most people would make. However, what you don't realize is that real knowledge would make it such that you would be very happy, even if you had no wealth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    You have made an honest statement and that is surely the choice that most people would make. However, what you don't realize is that real knowledge would make it such that you would be very happy, even if you had no wealth.
    Ignorance is also bliss.Plus wealth means you don't have to worry about a lot of things that poor people do.
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    Re: Knowledge or wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Ain't that the truth. A lot of people on here seem to be ignorant of what that is really like.
    I think a lot of those people never grew up poor.Yes you can be happy and poor.But money solves a lot of problems.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Knowledge or wealth

    Nonsensical question. If you have knowledge, then you can make wealth.
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    Re: Knowledge or wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Ignorance is also bliss.Plus wealth means you don't have to worry about a lot of things that poor people do.
    No ignorance is not bliss, rather it is at the root of suffering. Although a person with wealth may not have the precise types of financial problems that people without wealth experience, nonetheless they experience anxiety and suffering. Here's an example of a well know case.

    Cline said she gave Limbaugh 10 pills the next day and agreed to give him 30 of her husband's pills each month. When the doctor stopped renewing the prescription in early 1999, Limbaugh allegedly went ballistic.

    "His tone was nasty and bullying. He said, 'I don't care how or what you do, but you'd better - better! - get me some more,'" Cline said.

    The housekeeper said she found a new supplier and arranged to hide Limbaugh's stashes under his mattress so his wife, Marta, wouldn't find them.

    After several months, Limbaugh told her he was going to New York for detox and didn't need any more pills, Cline said.

    But a month later, he said his left ear was hurting and asked her for hydrocodone, followed by an order for OxyContin.

    Limbaugh, 52, suffered from autoimmune ear disease, a condition that left him deaf and had to be corrected with cochlear implant surgery two years ago.

    Cline said she continued to make deliveries to Limbaugh even after she quit as his housekeeper in July 2001 - but he became increasingly paranoid, even patting her down for recording devices, she said.

    In June 2002, Limbaugh told her he was going to New York for detox a second time.

    After he returned, "I went to talk to him, and he cried a little bit," she said. "He told me that if it ever got out, he would be ruined."

    She claimed that a lawyer for Limbaugh gave her a payoff - $80,000 he owed her, plus another $120,000 - and asked her to destroy the computer that contained the E-mail records.
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    The truth jamesrage is that we do not understand the extent of our massive ignorance. The problem is that because the phenomenon of sentience is beyond what can be properly understood through mundane logic and empirical based research, it is something that is not currently understood in the various paradigms of knowledge that have been devised by western civilization. Therefore modern human civilization has evolved around knowledge that is very narrowly confined to mundane things. In contrast, the Katha Upanishad contains detailed information about the nature of sentience. The Sanskrit terms for sentience are cetah and atma. Actually, although we don't realize it, the sentient being, atma if you will, has a problem that is quite a bit larger than lack of wealth. That problem is that although it is eternal, it is trying to experience happiness through the acquisition of mundane things which are temporary. The atma experiences suffering because by nature it is eternal and desires eternal happiness, but it can only attain to a type of temporary, and therefore illusory happiness by such endeavor. The only way for the atma to experience happiness is for it to link its activity with that of the Supreme atma, or what is known in Sanskrit as the Paramatma, also known as the Paramishvara, Supreme Controller, God. There is no other way. Wealth simply cannot do it. Its just like a junky trying to be happy by getting a temporary high with drugs, or a man trying to be happy by paying a prostitute for sex. Such endeavor can only led to temporary, illusory happiness only, and result in suffering in the end.

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    Re: Knowledge or wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Hmmmm? They still pay the First Moron GWBush to give speeches.
    LOL, Bush is much smarter than most Americans. Even White House Counsel Lanny Davis admitted that Bush was a genius when it came to understanding other people and being able to get along with them


    His military IQ test demonstrated he scored higher than either Kerry or Kennedy. and like it or not, you cannot graduate from Harvard Business school if you are a moron.

    when Bush was a pledge back in the days Yale had fraternities, he and all the other pledges were in some meeting with upper class members. Pledges were asked if they could name all the other pledges in the room and Bush not only did that, he had learned their home towns as well

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    Re: Knowledge or wealth

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The truth about what? I don't always want "the truth." Generally people don't want the truth and will get angry or deny it if told the truth.

    There is almost no situation where a person can be both rich and ignorant. But being stupidly happy and rich is far superior that realizing the full misery of your impoverished life living in a cardboard box wondering where your next meal is coming from.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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