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    Re: Should Confederate Memorial Day(s) exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    so you would be overly specific in a personal instance of self, but label someone from say, Quito, as an "American".


    holy hypocrisy, batman.
    I'm not sure. I've never heard of Quito.

    Let me check wikipedia. BRB

    EDiT: from wiki: Quito (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈkito]), formally San Francisco...

    Yeah, American
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    Re: Should Confederate Memorial Day(s) exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    I'm not sure. I've never heard of Quito.

    Let me check wikipedia. BRB

    EDiT: from wiki: Quito (Spanish pronunciation: [ˈkito]), formally San Francisco...

    Yeah, American
    wow, welcome to the "troll list".

    rolls eyes.

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    Re: Should Confederate Memorial Day(s) exist?

    If they had any shame, they'd have a Slave Memorial Day instead.

    I cannot believe the pride some people take in a history of trying to extend the enslavement of others. Asking whether there should be a Confederate Memorial Day is like asking if there should be an Indian Genocide Day. Are you serious?

    Slavery -- and the Confederacy, which existed mainly to preserve it -- should humble every American. All of us, North and South. Nothing done in its defence should ever be celebrated by anyone with a modicum of decency, humanity, or basic literacy. It is profoundly anti-American to celebrate the enslavement of others -- the denial of their life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

    For shame. Just for shame.
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    Re: Should Confederate Memorial Day(s) exist?

    No.

    We don't hold memorial days for traitors to the republic.

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    wow, welcome to the "troll list".

    rolls eyes.
    I'm surprised you carried on with him for that long, should have saved your breath.
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    Re: Should Confederate Memorial Day(s) exist?

    Yes

    The South had a constitutional and legal right to secede. The Civil War was an illegal act perpetrated upon the South by Lincoln and his troops.

    The subsequent federalization of our republic has been equally illegal and unjust, and it continues to this day

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    Re: Should Confederate Memorial Day(s) exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    No.

    We don't hold memorial days for traitors to the republic.



    I'm surprised you carried on with him for that long, should have saved your breath.
    The South had a legal right to secede. The civil war was an illegal act of aggression perpetrated against the Southern states who acted within their constitutional rights by seceding.

    So inasmuch as southerners are traitors, northerners are usurpers whose disdain for the constitutional law of the land shattered the previously long-held precedent of states rights of self-determination

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    Re: Should Confederate Memorial Day(s) exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Yes

    The South had a constitutional and legal right to secede. The Civil War was an illegal act perpetrated upon the South by Lincoln and his troops.

    The subsequent federalization of our republic has been equally illegal and unjust, and it continues to this day
    You are leaving out why the South seceded from the union. It's kind of an important detail you know. They seceded to protect the south's "state rights" to own and enslave an entire race of people. That is what the Civil War was ultimately about.
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    Re: Should Confederate Memorial Day(s) exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Did Confederate Memorial Day close government offices in your state today?





    Why are you wanting to honor people who killed more than three hundred thousand Americans?
    Confederate soldiers were basically soldiers of another country.The idea that America should have a memorial day for another country's soldiers is absurd.
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    Re: Should Confederate Memorial Day(s) exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by d0gbreath View Post
    So, the date in various southern states varies from Jan. to Jun.

    Does anyone else wonder why it can't be observed on the last Monday in May? You know; Memorial Day. That's the day of observance for all American Soldiers who died in battle. The Union Army soldiers are observed then. Why not observe the bravery and courage of those that gave all to the Confederate Army side on that same day? It makes total sense to me.
    So we should have memorial day for Tories?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Should Confederate Memorial Day(s) exist?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You are leaving out why the South seceded from the union. It's kind of an important detail you know. They seceded to protect the south's "state rights" to own and enslave an entire race of people. That is what the Civil War was ultimately about.
    The Civil War was no more legally justifiable than the war to take out Saddam Hussein in Iraq. Both cases were examples of an aggressive act against another country.

    Just because the South was annexed, whereas we never annexed Iraq, doesn't mean the legal basis changes.

    Ultimately, do we have a right to dictate our morality to others, by way of our military, or is it up to each nation to determine for themselves what is right and wrong?

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