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Store owners protecting their store against looters?

Should store owner be able to use deadly force against looters?

  • No, even if it destroys the owner & family, property can not be defended

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In the past when people were told to evacuate their homes for such as a hurricane - thus making them subject to burglary and vandalism - it would be announced that "looters will be shot."
 
You didn't read your own link or even the title of it, did you? What do you think the word "most" means? By the title itself, some did not.

Is it the fault of the looter, or the owner, that the owner purchased insurance but said insurance didn't cover the looting?


/ note, this doesn't excuse looting
// scumbags.
 
In Texas they would stand a very, very good chance of not being found guilty. ;)

See post #14 in this thread.

Come to think of it, I don't recall any such riots taking place in Texas. Maybe I missed it.
 
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Killing is never the answer and one life is not above the other.

that is pillow headed psychobabble. sometimes killing is the only appropriate answer. or I should say, shooting to stop which often leads to death
 
In the past when people were told to evacuate their homes for such as a hurricane - thus making them subject to burglary and vandalism - it would be announced that "looters will be shot."

I think they still can be in some states. But only by police and National Guard. During the mess with New Orleans, some federal troops were there, they could only respond in self-defence.
 
The police pull out, eliminating all police protection and essentially eliminating the rule of law.

Looters are breaking into a store owner's store. Insurance will not cover the lose. If the owner loses his inventory, he and his family become homeless, bankrupt and completely financially ruined. His wife will no longer be able to continue cancer treatment, for which lose of inventory is a death sentence for her. Daughter will have to drop out of college. The family will be on the street begging for food until food stamps are given and they find a homeless shelter.

Can the store owner use deadly force (such as a firearm) to protect his merchandise? Or he is required to lose everything he has, all efforts lost, future obliterated, watch his wife die, and his child's education ruined?

What do you say?

If push comes to shove i don´t see why not, but i see few situations in which deadly force would be strictly necessary.
 
The police pull out, eliminating all police protection and essentially eliminating the rule of law.

Looters are breaking into a store owner's store. Insurance will not cover the lose. If the owner loses his inventory, he and his family become homeless, bankrupt and completely financially ruined. His wife will no longer be able to continue cancer treatment, for which lose of inventory is a death sentence for her. Daughter will have to drop out of college. The family will be on the street begging for food until food stamps are given and they find a homeless shelter.

Can the store owner use deadly force (such as a firearm) to protect his merchandise? Or he is required to lose everything he has, all efforts lost, future obliterated, watch his wife die, and his child's education ruined?

What do you say?

If someone is breaking into your place and stealing your stuff, yes you can respond with lethal force. Well I'd say theoretically, though you'd probably want to make sure what the state law is. But the police can't protect you all the time, and you need to be capable of defending your own.
 
Wish I could find the link to one of the recent riots were every store was looted - but one. The convenience store "owned by Koreans." They were standing visibly holding shotguns refusing to flee from or abandon their store.

If I may: Rodney King Riots, 1992.

 
Killing is never the answer and one life is not above the other.

My life is definitely "above" that of anyone intentionally endangering my life.
 
Can the store owner use deadly force (such as a firearm) to protect his merchandise? Or he is required to lose everything he has, all efforts lost, future obliterated, watch his wife die, and his child's education ruined?

What do you say?

Yes, he can use lethal force in direct defense of his property.

Can he use force against people against people whom he deems might have looted other properties, or whom he thinks might be intending to loot his property, or simply because he concludes they uhhmmm..... "look like looters" or "don't belong here" or are being "obnoxious"?- absolutely not.

Basically, he retains the right to defend his property. He also needs to remember that protestors also retain their right to self defense. He may think that hard core, pre-emptive solutions are fun to implement- until somebody implements a hardcore, pre-emptive solution on him. Then, such solutions are no longer fun.... .
 
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The police pull out, eliminating all police protection and essentially eliminating the rule of law.

Looters are breaking into a store owner's store. Insurance will not cover the lose. If the owner loses his inventory, he and his family become homeless, bankrupt and completely financially ruined. His wife will no longer be able to continue cancer treatment, for which lose of inventory is a death sentence for her. Daughter will have to drop out of college. The family will be on the street begging for food until food stamps are given and they find a homeless shelter.

Can the store owner use deadly force (such as a firearm) to protect his merchandise? Or he is required to lose everything he has, all efforts lost, future obliterated, watch his wife die, and his child's education ruined?

What do you say?



IMHO, if the police pull out and leave you on your own, you do what you have to do.


Preferably with something with a 30 round mag.
 
sav sniper (3).jpgshoot anyone that steps in your store after given fair warning.....post a sign outside stating your intentions
 
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Nope, just let the warning be the pile of bodies. In fact, if you ever wanted to shoot a couple of gangstas this is your chance. Even with all of the video available, have you noticed that nobody is ever caught after these riots? Well then, you should be clear to knock down some crips and bloods and make the world a better place. I know, I know, Black Lives Matter. It's OK, lately there have been a lot of definitions that have been changed to protect the offended, we'll just call these late term abortions. Considering how many are performed in the black community anyway, to paraphrase Hillary Clinton, "At this point, what difference does it make?"
 
In fact, if you ever wanted to shoot a couple of gangstas this is your chance.

Which is to say, if you have a tiny penis, are afraid of everyone around you (and potentially your own shadow), and your wife wears the pants in your family, and as a result you've fantasized about shooting someone because that's the only thing in your empty little life that you can imagine will make you a man, this is your chance.

Far as I'm concerned, so much as twitch in the direction of my wife and kids and you earned yourself a bullet.

But if you steal my TV and blender or, God forbid, my "inventory", mehhh.... I'll just settle with my insurance carrier and call it a day.
 
Which is to say, if you have a tiny penis, are afraid of everyone around you (and potentially your own shadow), and your wife wears the pants in your family, and as a result you've fantasized about shooting someone because that's the only thing in your empty little life that you can imagine will make you a man, this is your chance.

Far as I'm concerned, so much as twitch in the direction of my wife and kids and you earned yourself a bullet.

But if you steal my TV and blender or, God forbid, my "inventory", mehhh.... I'll just settle with my insurance carrier and call it a day.

Aw, did I strike a nerve? It seems you have more respect for urban thugs than you do for business owners. As a business owner I can assure you that insurance companies are not going to swoop in and save the day, making everything like it never happened. But I can tell from your shallow attacks that you prefer feelings to facts, so I'll just leave you to that. There is no point in informing the willfully ignorant.
 
Aw, did I strike a nerve?

No, you said something that's generally indicative of cowardice and low self esteem.

That's all I was pointing out.
 
If it were up to me, I'd authorize him to use a machine gun to shoot the cockroaches who think they have an excuse to riot and burn.

But, that's just me.

The law doesn't allow this, unfortunately.

Machine guns are difficult for the poorly trained to control and you get serious issues with collateral damage. I would say pistols, shotguns, and semi-automatic rifles should do the trick.

Though it's not implausible that a lot of these guys will be hyped up on something when they come through your front façade, so either a shotgun or a large caliber round would be advised.
 
They have all right to use proportionate force to protect their property and well being, went with the first choice.
 
with respect, that would be an awful weapon for defending a store.

I thought that too, unless you were a couple of blocks away and suppressed. I don't think there is A best weapon for that, if you asked me what I would choose I would say friends. I'd rather not face a crowd alone.
 
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