View Poll Results: Should store owner be able to use deadly force against looters?

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  • Yes, you can defend the interior of your property with deadly force

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  • No, even if it destroys the owner & family, property can not be defended

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  • Maybe, it depends on the level of actual harm to the owner if looted

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    Re: Store owners protecting their store against looters?

    If I'm in my store, how do I know they wont just kill me?
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    Re: Store owners protecting their store against looters?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The police pull out, eliminating all police protection and essentially eliminating the rule of law.

    Looters are breaking into a store owner's store. Insurance will not cover the lose. If the owner loses his inventory, he and his family become homeless, bankrupt and completely financially ruined. His wife will no longer be able to continue cancer treatment, for which lose of inventory is a death sentence for her. Daughter will have to drop out of college. The family will be on the street begging for food until food stamps are given and they find a homeless shelter.

    Can the store owner use deadly force (such as a firearm) to protect his merchandise? Or he is required to lose everything he has, all efforts lost, future obliterated, watch his wife die, and his child's education ruined?

    What do you say?

    Ferguson crisis: Most business insurance covers riots - St. Louis Business Journal

    why do you set up insanely false hypotheticals?

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    Re: Store owners protecting their store against looters?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The police pull out, eliminating all police protection and essentially eliminating the rule of law.

    Looters are breaking into a store owner's store. Insurance will not cover the lose. If the owner loses his inventory, he and his family become homeless, bankrupt and completely financially ruined. His wife will no longer be able to continue cancer treatment, for which lose of inventory is a death sentence for her. Daughter will have to drop out of college. The family will be on the street begging for food until food stamps are given and they find a homeless shelter.

    Can the store owner use deadly force (such as a firearm) to protect his merchandise? Or he is required to lose everything he has, all efforts lost, future obliterated, watch his wife die, and his child's education ruined?

    What do you say?
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    Re: Store owners protecting their store against looters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    Killing is never the answer and one life is not above the other.
    This seems to be an ongoing theme. It appears the idea is to eliminate the consequences of knowingly destroying property thru public humiliation (I.E. racism, islamophobia, etc.) so that protesters have the upper hand over those who provide goods and services. Much like the Atlanta teaching case, I think the only way to end it is to impose harsh penalties for it. Those teachers going to jail for several years should make others think twice about engaging in such behavior. Likewise, when outside influences invade a town and destroy property that will then have to be replaced by the residents after the protesters have had their fun and left and the police department stands down for their own safety, the citizens are left to defend themselves in a lawless environment that has been created by the outside protesters. In my view the only way to end this is to deal with the protesters for what they are, an invading force. In a situation where there is no law enforcement I'll defend myself and my property.

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    Re: Store owners protecting their store against looters?

    I vote YES of course but thats my personal "feelings" and OPINIONS

    Laws vary from place to place and the "looting" would have to be more specifically defined before legal answers are given.


    For me its simply though, I'm at work alone or even worse with family, or even at the most worse I love above, below or within my store and a person or persons are violently trying to gain entry . . . . .they are already not to be trusted and there is a risk of life, if my home/business is breached expect deadly force to be used.
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    Re: Store owners protecting their store against looters?

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post

    You didn't read your own link or even the title of it, did you? What do you think the word "most" means? By the title itself, some did not.

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    Re: Store owners protecting their store against looters?

    In the past when people were told to evacuate their homes for such as a hurricane - thus making them subject to burglary and vandalism - it would be announced that "looters will be shot."

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    Re: Store owners protecting their store against looters?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    You didn't read your own link or even the title of it, did you? What do you think the word "most" means? By the title itself, some did not.
    Is it the fault of the looter, or the owner, that the owner purchased insurance but said insurance didn't cover the looting?


    / note, this doesn't excuse looting
    // scumbags.

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    Re: Store owners protecting their store against looters?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    In Texas they would stand a very, very good chance of not being found guilty.

    See post #14 in this thread.
    Come to think of it, I don't recall any such riots taking place in Texas. Maybe I missed it.
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    Re: Store owners protecting their store against looters?

    "Those were lies, pure and simple."

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