View Poll Results: How will SCOTUS rule?

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  • States can ban SSM and not recognize them from other states

    2 3.33%
  • States can ban SSM but have to recognize them from other states

    8 13.33%
  • States cannot ban SSM but do not have to recognize them from other states

    1 1.67%
  • States cannot ban SSM and have to recognize them from other states

    45 75.00%
  • No ruling, lack of standing

    1 1.67%
  • Something else

    3 5.00%
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Thread: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Ten years? Yikes, that's almost as long as I've been a DP member. Seems like yesterday. lol Ten years isn't very long in the scheme of things. It took over 70 years for women to get the vote.
    And it took 30 years from the time that homosexuals were officially no longer considered having a mental illness to get to marry the person they wanted to marry in just one state. Heck, it was really that long for them to no longer have to fear going to jail in any state just for their consensual relationships.

    Plus, things change faster now, thanks to faster ways to communicate and get stuff out. When women got the right to vote, we didn't have internet. Hell, we didn't even have TV and barely had phones (didn't for much of the time the fight was going on). Of course it is going to take longer. That doesn't mean that we should make same sex couples wait 70 years just because circumstances of the past made the time when the fight for some rights is seen as starting til the rights were finally won so long.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Tradition and fear of change is the basis of the defenses argument. Which makes sense since the defense are Christian conservatives. Over half the Supreme court justices are Christian conservatives, too.
    So what if that is the basis for the defense's argument? That is a still a very poor argument and means nothing for the Constitution.

    And as for the SCOTUS Justices, well they really should not allow their Christian bias influence their decisions. They are SCOTUS Justices, not politicians.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    States cannot ban SSM but do not have to recognize them from other states. Looks like I'm the only one who said that.
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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    States cannot ban SSM but do not have to recognize them from other states. Looks like I'm the only one who said that.
    Because it wouldn't make any sense. Why would the be allowed to do this? There is no precedent for such a ruling and a marriage is a marriage, whether it is done in one state or another, especially if the states are recognizing opposite sex marriages from other states.
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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Because it wouldn't make any sense. Why would the be allowed to do this? There is no precedent for such a ruling and a marriage is a marriage, whether it is done in one state or another, especially if the states are recognizing opposite sex marriages from other states.
    Because it's crystal ball time on an anonymous message board and I get to choose whatever answer I want.
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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Because it's crystal ball time on an anonymous message board and I get to choose whatever answer I want.
    You can, but you were commenting on why no one else picked that one. It is because it doesn't make any sense for the SCOTUS to make such a ruling. They almost certainly wouldn't since it would later be challenged, pointing out that same sex couples were being unfairly penalized by some states who would make them refile for a marriage license in their state just for moving there or working their when opposite sex couples wouldn't have to do so. That would violate the 14th Amendment.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    And it took 30 years from the time that homosexuals were officially no longer considered having a mental illness to get to marry the person they wanted to marry in just one state. Heck, it was really that long for them to no longer have to fear going to jail in any state just for their consensual relationships.

    Plus, things change faster now, thanks to faster ways to communicate and get stuff out. When women got the right to vote, we didn't have internet. Hell, we didn't even have TV and barely had phones (didn't for much of the time the fight was going on). Of course it is going to take longer. That doesn't mean that we should make same sex couples wait 70 years just because circumstances of the past made the time when the fight for some rights is seen as starting til the rights were finally won so long.
    The more things change, the more they stay the same.


    edit: Ooops, I accidentally hit the send button before I finished my response. More words coming......later....
    Last edited by Moot; 05-06-15 at 05:28 PM.

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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    I'm going with the only answer that makes rightful and legal sense "States cannot ban SSM and have to recognize them from other states"
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