View Poll Results: How will SCOTUS rule?

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  • States can ban SSM and not recognize them from other states

    2 3.33%
  • States can ban SSM but have to recognize them from other states

    8 13.33%
  • States cannot ban SSM but do not have to recognize them from other states

    1 1.67%
  • States cannot ban SSM and have to recognize them from other states

    45 75.00%
  • No ruling, lack of standing

    1 1.67%
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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

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    It might easily exacerbate the problems, as it would in the mind of persons who think that individuals should be protected from governmental interference delegitimize the state and Constitution. It is the type of right, no less, that people could easily think worth protecting and taking up arms to do. That would not at all be inconsistent with this Nation's traditions, when you think of the reason many of the first settlers left their homes in the Old World to begin in the wilderness in freedom of religious practice.

    LMAO good thing that right isnt in any HONEST or REAL danger. ANd to those that are seriously uneducated, dishonest and biased enough to think it is? I WELCOME them to take up arms and fight for thier fallacy ideas, equal rights will win, they will lose and america will be a better place for it.

    I don't condone violence on this issue but by all means if the bigots feel giving gays equal rights is a reason to take up arms and fight the government, have at it lol
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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    As I see, you have never even thought about the matter.
    Translation: you can't support your ridiculous claim so you deflect . . maybe try answering the question this time instead of dodging it . . . .lol

    How does giving gays equal rights/legal marriage toss free religious practice aside? Please list the facts that make your statement true, I can't wait to read this
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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It might easily exacerbate the problems, as it would in the mind of persons who think that individuals should be protected from governmental interference delegitimize the state and Constitution. It is the type of right, no less, that people could easily think worth protecting and taking up arms to do. That would not at all be inconsistent with this Nation's traditions, when you think of the reason many of the first settlers left their homes in the Old World to begin in the wilderness in freedom of religious practice.
    ...not sure exactly what I just read.



    Are you stating that, if SCOTUS leaves the decision with the people and the states, that homosexuals will begin killing people? Or that if SCOTUS decides to nationalize Marriage that Christians will begin doing so?
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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ...not sure exactly what I just read.



    Are you stating that, if SCOTUS leaves the decision with the people and the states, that homosexuals will begin killing people? Or that if SCOTUS decides to nationalize Marriage that Christians will begin doing so?
    he'll have to answer but equal rights are winning and is going to win so people that support equal rights (not just gays) are going to be doing any killings

    if equal rights wins "chrisitians" have no reason to be upset to kill people, millions of Christians support equal rights and Christianity itself is no reason to be against equal rights
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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ...not sure exactly what I just read.

    Are you stating that, if SCOTUS leaves the decision with the people and the states, that homosexuals will begin killing people? Or that if SCOTUS decides to nationalize Marriage that Christians will begin doing so?
    I think that the decision to make conscientiously objecting persons participate in what their religion says be mortal crime against their God is what makes martyrs and revolutions. It certainly delegitimates the state that does this and stabilizes it in that way.

    We need a solution to the problem that deescalates and not one that escalates. The only one I see is taking marriage out of the government portfolio. In that way we would come clean.

    The other way would be to amend the Constitution, but that could prove extremely divisive. But it would be fair and clean and not dependent on the accidental assortment of judges hearing the case.
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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    1.) I think that the decision to make conscientiously objecting persons participate in what their religion says be mortal crime against their God is what makes martyrs and revolutions. It certainly delegitimaes the state that does this and stabilizes it in that way.
    2.)We need a solution to the problem that deescalates and not one that escalates.
    3.) The only one I see is taking marriage out of the government portfolio.
    1.) well good thing thats factually not happening
    2.) that solution is already being done, equal rights
    3.) this is impossible, legal marriage will always involve government, it has too
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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) well good thing thats factually not happening
    2.) that solution is already being done, equal rights
    3.) this is impossible, legal marriage will always involve government, it has too
    You are wrong on evry point. Sorry.

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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    You are wrong on evry point. Sorry.
    you dont have to apologize for being wrong, people make mistakes and we are just pointing yours out

    also you keep saying stuff like this but see, honest and educated people need proof and facts
    in your next post, simply post any facts you have that support your proven wrong claims . . . one . . .thanks


    who wants to bet this request is dodged again?
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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I think that the decision to make conscientiously objecting persons participate in what their religion says be mortal crime against their God is what makes martyrs and revolutions. It certainly delegitimates the state that does this and stabilizes it in that way.

    We need a solution to the problem that deescalates and not one that escalates. The only one I see is taking marriage out of the government portfolio. In that way we would come clean.

    The other way would be to amend the Constitution, but that could prove extremely divisive. But it would be fair and clean and not dependent on the accidental assortment of judges hearing the case.

    You don't have to take marriage out of the government portfolio. That's a false either/or dichotomy. No one is forced to enter into a same-sex civil marriage against their will.


    We can have government recognize the rights of same-sex couples to enter into Civil Marriage and allow private businesses to make their own decisions as to which customers to serve or not - whether it be race, religion, national origin, sex, sexual orientation or any other criteria.


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    Re: Crystal Ball Time: SCOTUS and SSM

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I think that the decision to make conscientiously objecting persons participate in what their religion says be mortal crime against their God is what makes martyrs and revolutions. It certainly delegitimates the state that does this and stabilizes it in that way.

    We need a solution to the problem that deescalates and not one that escalates. The only one I see is taking marriage out of the government portfolio. In that way we would come clean.

    The other way would be to amend the Constitution, but that could prove extremely divisive. But it would be fair and clean and not dependent on the accidental assortment of judges hearing the case.
    No. If forced to participate, Christians will divide into those who change their beliefs, those who keep their beliefs but submit to the state, and those who keep their beliefs and practice civil disobedience.
    “In America we have a two-party system,” a Republican congressional staffer told a visiting group of Russian legislators. “There is the stupid party. And there is the evil party. I am proud to be a member of the stupid party. Periodically, the two parties get together and do something that is both stupid and evil. This is called: bipartisanship."

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