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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "In Rojava, we believe, genuinely democratic structures have indeed been established. Not only is the system of government accountable to the people, but it springs out of new structures that make direct democracy possible: popular assemblies and democratic councils. Women participate on an equal footing with men at every level and also organize in autonomous councils, assemblies, and committees to address their specific concerns. . . . Rojava, we believe, points to an alternative future for Syria and the Middle East, a future where the peoples of different ethnic backgrounds and religions can live together, united by mutual tolerance and common institutions. Kurdish organizations have led the way, but they increasingly gain support from Arabs, Assyrians, and Chechens, who participate in their common system of self-government and organize autonomously." The Revolution in Rojava | Dissent Magazine
    I believe every nation has the right to have their independent country.but please lets be honest,demso.what do you know about the kurds in Turkey ? if they are sincere in what they want they can achieve their goals as we see in my sig.I wont give them anything unless a whole nation (if they are ) agrees that they want to live out of Turkey
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    I believe every nation has the right to have their independent country.but please lets be honest,demso.what do you know about the kurds in Turkey ? if they are sincere in what they want they can achieve their goals as we see in my sig.I wont give them anything unless a whole nation (if they are ) agrees that they want to live out of Turkey
    So you want them to continue an arm conflict? Would you be in favor of something along the lines of what Iraq has established in their Kurdish regions?
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    According to you the Creek form the majority population in the Southern States of the US? That's news to me.
    Of course not, the invading whites almost wiped them out in a genocide, but the point is that the Creek nation actually existed, where as Kurdistan did not.
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    In view of the developments of the last couple of decades, should the US and other Western countries recognize the right of the Kurds to form an independent state, starting from the current Kurdish autonomous region in Iraq but eventually also encompassing the Kurdish areas of Syria, Turkey and Iran (if the Kurds in those areas choose to join such a state)?



    Sure, why not. No culture/region/ethnicity that doesn't want to be part of a larger polity should be held against its will.

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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Sure, why not. No culture/region/ethnicity that doesn't want to be part of a larger polity should be held against its will.
    you may read my posts.I have much more information than him,sweety
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Not just yes, but hell yes. If they can establish a capital and a government and defend it, that is, which seems unlikely. Syria, maybe, and maybe Iraq can be defended against but if they claim an inch of Turkey or Iran they're toast.
    I say whatever borders they claim have to be defended first by themselves- if they can pull that off they definitely deserve support.
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    I'm sorry but this is inaccurate. It is Turkey which is contesting the sovereignty of Greece over its territorial waters. Not the other way round. When is the last time Canadian fighter jets intercepted a plane carrying the US Secretary of Defense over US airspace?
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    In view of the developments of the last couple of decades, should the US and other Western countries recognize the right of the Kurds to form an independent state, starting from the current Kurdish autonomous region in Iraq but eventually also encompassing the Kurdish areas of Syria, Turkey and Iran (if the Kurds in those areas choose to join such a state)?
    Have they declared independence?

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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    No, not really. Mainly because they are being held back from doing so by the Western countries trying to appease the governments in Ankara and Baghdad (which is pretty short-sighted).
    They may not want independence. With independence can come revolution, in-fighting, chaos, civil war over who is in control, and invasion. There also are serious infrastructure and economic factors.

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