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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    In any event, the point of this thread is not Turkey but Kurdistan and whether or not the Kurds should have the right to self-determination.

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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    I'm sorry but this is inaccurate. It is Turkey which is contesting the sovereignty of Greece over its territorial waters. Not the other way round. When is the last time Canadian fighter jets intercepted a plane carrying the US Secretary of Defense over US airspace?
    Disputes generally have two sides - you only see one side as valid whereas I don't. That's your prerogative - but that doesn't mean your view is right or the only rational one. And it certainly doesn't validate your attempt to get the US and/or NATO to favour the chaos that would result from claims of Kurdish sovereignty without Turkish involvement and approval.
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Disputes generally have two sides - you only see one side as valid whereas I don't. That's your prerogative - but that doesn't mean your view is right or the only rational one. And it certainly doesn't validate your attempt to get the US and/or NATO to favour the chaos that would result from claims of Kurdish sovereignty without Turkish involvement and approval.
    Again, I point to the fact that I'm proposing beginning by recognizing the claim to independence (if they wish to make it) of the Kurdish autonomous region in Iraq.

    I would also point out that Turkey has been the one promoting chaos in Syria and Iraq.

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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    In any event, everybody is entitled to their opinion as to whether or not it is justified to allow the Kurd to form their own state. That is why it is called an opinion poll I believe.

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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Again, I point to the fact that I'm proposing beginning by recognizing the claim to independence (if they wish to make it) of the Kurdish autonomous region in Iraq.

    I would also point out that Turkey has been the one promoting chaos in Syria and Iraq.
    Utter nonsense.
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Utter nonsense.
    You are unaware of the support and free passes they have given to IS and to various other groups?

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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    In any event, the point of this thread is not Turkey but Kurdistan and whether or not the Kurds should have the right to self-determination.
    a kurdistan without TURKEY.are you sure?
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    They absolutely should. The Kurdish people have proven over and over again that they are ready for independence. They are currently running their own, essentially state in northern Syrian right now, known as Rojava. Secular, democratic, and free.
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    They absolutely should. The Kurdish people have proven over and over again that they are ready for independence. They are currently running their own, essentially state in northern Syrian right now, known as Rojava. Secular, democratic, and free.
    you dont know much about it.they wont go back to kurdistan .pkk supporters both try to found kurdistan and keep settling in the western part of TURKEY.what do you think about it honestly ? do you think they want their own kurdistan,at least the ones living in Turkey ? do you know the most of them dont know what democracy is and live as a part of their tribes??
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    you dont know much about it.they wont go back to kurdistan .pkk supporters both try to found kurdistan and keep settling in the western part of TURKEY.what do you think about it honestly ? do you think they want their own kurdistan,at least the ones living in Turkey ? do you know the most of them dont know what democracy is and live as a part of their tribes??
    "In Rojava, we believe, genuinely democratic structures have indeed been established. Not only is the system of government accountable to the people, but it springs out of new structures that make direct democracy possible: popular assemblies and democratic councils. Women participate on an equal footing with men at every level and also organize in autonomous councils, assemblies, and committees to address their specific concerns. . . . Rojava, we believe, points to an alternative future for Syria and the Middle East, a future where the peoples of different ethnic backgrounds and religions can live together, united by mutual tolerance and common institutions. Kurdish organizations have led the way, but they increasingly gain support from Arabs, Assyrians, and Chechens, who participate in their common system of self-government and organize autonomously." The Revolution in Rojava | Dissent Magazine
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