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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Turkey has regularly threatened war against Greece and invaded Greek airspace. It has also had military clashes with the US in northern Iraq.

    It regularly invades the airspace of other neigboring countries (not all of them NATO members) and has invaded Cyprus and created a puppet-republic there which it still occupies.
    no it is a big lie, greece threatens to attack turkey many times as if it is stronger than Turkey.look at the puppets of western countries ,kurdistan will be another puppet if it is founded
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    so it is not your business.go divide your little country now
    Wow, so he can't have an opinion on the matter?
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Wow, so he can't have an opinion on the matter?
    Fairly typical of Turkish ultra-nationalism.

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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by OrphanSlug View Post
    Wow, so he can't have an opinion on the matter?
    if he has enough knowledge ,yes!
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Fairly typical of Turkish ultra-nationalism.
    like your typical western imperialism and turkey hatred
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Turkey has regularly threatened war against Greece and invaded Greek airspace. It has also had military clashes with the US in northern Iraq.

    It regularly invades the airspace of other neigboring countries (not all of them NATO members) and has invaded Cyprus and created a puppet-republic there which it still occupies.
    Greece and Turkey have a long history of disputes due to their proximity, long before both entered NATO. You seem to believe that all blame must be laid at the feet of Turkey. How far back in history do you want to go? When was the last military action between the two countries? One could argue that Germany and Italy also took military action and invaded NATO members if you want to go back decades in time.
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Greece and Turkey have a long history of disputes due to their proximity, long before both entered NATO. You seem to believe that all blame must be laid at the feet of Turkey. How far back in history do you want to go? When was the last military action between the two countries? One could argue that Germany and Italy also took military action and invaded NATO members if you want to go back decades in time.
    he claims I am ultra nationalist.what a bigotry and ignorance, hate etc.. all westerners defend their countries including him.none of them are accused of being a right winger nazi type person.
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Greece and Turkey have a long history of disputes due to their proximity, long before both entered NATO. You seem to believe that all blame must be laid at the feet of Turkey. How far back in history do you want to go? When was the last military action between the two countries? One could argue that Germany and Italy also took military action and invaded NATO members if you want to go back decades in time.

    Over the last two decades Turkish planes have regularly invaded Greek airspace, including to threaten official Greek planes carrying government ministers. During the same period Turkey has regularly threatened military action against Greece if Grece were to develop oil exploration in its territorial waters. I am unaware of Germany or Italy having invaded any other NATO countries over the last few decades.

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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeoVlaming View Post
    Over the last two decades Turkish planes have regularly invaded Greek airspace, including to threaten official Greek planes carrying government ministers. During the same period Turkey has regularly threatened military action against Greece if Grece were to develop oil exploration in its territorial waters. I am unaware of Germany or Italy having invaded any other NATO countries over the last few decades.
    And I could quote references to the Greeks doing the same:

    Greece puts four Turkish jets under radar lock, violates airspace: General Staff - INTERNATIONAL

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/23/wo...hens.html?_r=0

    Greek jets violate Turkish airspace over Aegean Sea

    Canada and the US have disputes over territorial rights in the Arctic, along with other northern NATO countries.

    Such disputes are normal - that is not the same as your claim of Turkey "invading" NATO and other countries.
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    Re: Should the US (and other Western countries) recognize the Kurdish independence?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    And I could quote references to the Greeks doing the same:

    Greece puts four Turkish jets under radar lock, violates airspace: General Staff - INTERNATIONAL

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/23/wo...hens.html?_r=0

    Greek jets violate Turkish airspace over Aegean Sea

    Canada and the US have disputes over territorial rights in the Arctic, along with other northern NATO countries.

    Such disputes are normal - that is not the same as your claim of Turkey "invading" NATO and other countries.
    I'm sorry but this is inaccurate. It is Turkey which is contesting the sovereignty of Greece over its territorial waters. Not the other way round. When is the last time Canadian fighter jets intercepted a plane carrying the US Secretary of Defense over US airspace?

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