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    Re: Should the Federal Govt. implement a Value Added Tax (VAT)?

    No. No new taxes. What I'd actually like to see is a single embedded retail sales tax that we never see or need to file to comply with, similar to gas taxes. This to completely replace all other taxes; local, state and federal. Whether the state collects and sends Washington's portion to congress or the federal government collects and sends the states and cities their cut, I'm not sure but simplify it so it doesn't even seen like we're paying taxes.
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    Re: Should the Federal Govt. implement a Value Added Tax (VAT)?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Well, the Govt is broke, deficits are high, programs cuts and tax increases are/should be on the table.
    A VAT is only paid on the end use product.
    Sales tax- is that not added at each level of the chain from product received to thru various vendors till you purchase it? That can be regressive.
    Vat is paid every time the product is sold and the seller gets back the vat he paid, when he bought it. This requires a bureaucracy and continuous payments to and from it.

    Depending on how the sales tax can be levied on the last user.

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    Re: Should the Federal Govt. implement a Value Added Tax (VAT)?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Vat is paid every time the product is sold and the seller gets back the vat he paid, when he bought it. This requires a bureaucracy and continuous payments to and from it.

    Depending on how the sales tax can be levied on the last user.
    And a portion is retained by the company to cover those costs.
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    Re: Should the Federal Govt. implement a Value Added Tax (VAT)?

    Eh not sure, probably prefer more of a sales tax then a VAT first off. Still, personally I wouldn't want to pay sales tax or VAT taxes, but I also realize that if the government needs money it isn't the worst idea (as much as I'd still hate it).

    Other issues come up with what the tax would be on, if it includes food and clothes etc. like in some states then I can't really support it as it's incredibly regressive. If it is more like a luxury tax, I could see some appeal, even if it means things I like (like video games) are going to cost more =p.

    How to manage the loss of state sales tax is another problem, since some states income is mostly sales tax for (usually) stupid reasons. Either people would have to be taxed twice, or something would have to be set up to help states with income and expenses, more so then currently.

    I agree with what the other poster said, it'd be really nice if sales tax started getting included in the price of goods, instead of having to figure it out yourself. If you mostly shop in the same city, it isn't too hard to start figuring it out with a calculator, just really annoying but if you are going to different cities sometimes, or traveling, it gets really hard to keep up with who charges what in sales tax. It gets worse if some areas have differing tax codes, like Mesa which (if I recall) doesn't have a local sales tax on food, so you pay just the state rate.

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    Re: Should the Federal Govt. implement a Value Added Tax (VAT)?

    Only if they got rid of income taxes. I would support it over the current income tax system.

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    Re: Should the Federal Govt. implement a Value Added Tax (VAT)?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I'm generally against the idea, but if it were to REPLACE most of the taxes we have now I'd consider it.

    If it were just added to the already long list we have, then I'd be absolutely against it.
    Absolutely not.

    The purpose and design of the VAT is to prevent taxpayers from understanding how much they are getting screwed.

    This already happens, to a lesser level, with taxes on corporations, which end up being passed along to unwitting consumers, and if it were up to me, that would not be allowed either.

    I think all taxes should be openly and honestly collected directly from those who end up bearing the burden, and not imposed in such a manner as to hide them in the prices that the end consumer pays for goods and services.
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    Re: Should the Federal Govt. implement a Value Added Tax (VAT)?

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Just do the sales tax at the consumer level. I do know that a vat is optimal in allocation terms. But you need a whole bureaucracy to implement it and it is prone to fraud.
    Fixed it for you.

    As I stated, the only purpose in implement a tax as a VAT is to fraudulently hide it from those who end up bearing the burden thereof. There is absolutely no place in any open and free society for any such dishonest form of taxation.
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    Re: Should the Federal Govt. implement a Value Added Tax (VAT)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Absolutely not.

    The purpose and design of the VAT is to prevent taxpayers from understanding how much they are getting screwed.

    This already happens, to a lesser level, with taxes on corporations, which end up being passed along to unwitting consumers, and if it were up to me, that would not be allowed either.

    I think all taxes should be openly and honestly collected directly from those who end up bearing the burden, and not imposed in such a manner as to hide them in the prices that the end consumer pays for goods and services.
    The sales tax does that quite well as would a greatly simplified income tax.
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    Re: Should the Federal Govt. implement a Value Added Tax (VAT)?

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Should the Federal Govt. implement a Value Added Tax (VAT)?
    A consumption tax, more you consume more you pay, a fair tax?
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    Re: Should the Federal Govt. implement a Value Added Tax (VAT)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    In leu of existing taxes?
    Nope. Added on top.
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