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Do you feel this policeman handled this woman withen police guidelines?

Is this policeman being Brutal to this citizen


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Would you handle this citizen the same way if you were a cop Texas Officer Slams Allegedly Drunk Woman To The Ground, Knocking Her Out

Sure. The woman was drunk in public, had put her 6 year old daughter in extreme danger, and was moving towards violence with the police officer. He took action to end such an opportunity immediately.

Probably didn't mean to knock her out.

Good bust. Grandma will probably be forced to provide full time care for the granddaughter a lot sooner than she expected.
 
No. The victim was slightly resistant but not to the degree that the officer needed to handle her so aggressively. That body slam was excessive!
 
That looked completely disproportionate to the resistance she was giving.
 
Surprisingly, I think I may side with the officer on this one. Disagreeing with the officer is not cause to resist arrest, odds are it will only elevate the situation. Like what happened in this case. The dash cam clearly shows the officer tried to get her to comply with minimal force, she continued to try to pull out of it, and I'm not surprised she was eventually put on the ground to give the officer a better condition to secure the arrest. Her being knocked out does not look like the intention.
 
Surprisingly, I think I may side with the officer on this one. Disagreeing with the officer is not cause to resist arrest, odds are it will only elevate the situation. Like what happened in this case. The dash cam clearly shows the officer tried to get her to comply with minimal force, she continued to try to pull out of it, and I'm not surprised she was eventually put on the ground to give the officer a better condition to secure the arrest. Her being knocked out does not look like the intention.

As a grappler I can tell you...slams and trips and takedowns can injure someone more than a punch. And on accident. I've had surgery for one such takedown.
 
As a grappler I can tell you...slams and trips and takedowns can injure someone more than a punch. And on accident. I've had surgery for one such takedown.

I do not deny the probability of danger, just saying it looks like the intention was to ensure an arrest. If he *wanted* to hurt her there are dozens of take-downs expressly designed to use the force of the fall against the opponent. As a grappler, you should know that.
 
Oh hell no!

If I was that cop I'd have sung lullabies to her and braided her hair until she fell asleep THEN would have taken her into custody.:roll:

I've dented the hoods of a few cars with the foreheads of drunks. Sometimes you have to take a more assertive approach to get the idiot to shut up and start paying attention.

Those are clearly the only two choices ... brute force or patty-cake. :roll:
 
Those are clearly the only two choices ... brute force or patty-cake. :roll:

Hysterical extremism is the trademark of many who try to claim that women and liberals are sooo emotional.
 
Hysterical extremism is the trademark of many who try to claim that women and liberals are sooo emotional.

Not to change the subject, only to draw a parallel, but it's the same damn argument torture apologists use when people object to "advanced interrogation techniques."
 
Those are clearly the only two choices ... brute force or patty-cake. :roll:

Sorry dude but when you're making an arrest the LAST thing you want to do is make an all day affair of it.

You're the cop. You are in control. NEVER give the suspect control. You tend to live longer that way.
 
Absolutely not. With that feeble a level of squirming from someone that wasted, I probably could have gotten her in cuffs myself and I'm smaller than she is. There was absolutely no reason to throw her on the ground, and even if there was, that is not how you go about it. You don't literally toss people head-first into the floor. The goal of a take-down is to make restraint easier, and thus the cop follows them down to soften their blow and also to keep both hands firmly on them. He just sort of tossed her. Seems the only goal was to wave his dick.

People can die from head injuries like that and he needs to be charged with reckless endangerment at a minimum.
 
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I answered yes because the question on the poll is "Is this policeman being Brutal to this citizen". I would answer "no" to the question as worded in the OP, though.
 
That looked completely disproportionate to the resistance she was giving.

Of course it was, by very definition you have to use disproportionate force to effect an arrest.

If both parties use equal force no one will win. And the cops have to win.
 
Absolutely not. With that feeble a level of squirming from someone that wasted, I probably could have gotten her in cuffs myself and I'm smaller than she is. There was absolutely no reason to throw her on the ground, and even if there was, that is not how you go about it. You don't literally toss people head-first into the floor. The goal of a take-down is to make restraint easier, and thus the cop follows them down to soften their blow and also to keep both hands firmly on them. He just sort of tossed her. Seems the only goal was to wave his dick.

People can die from head injuries like that and he needs to be charged with reckless endangerment at a minimum.

Then go apply at your local police force and show them how it's done
 
I do not deny the probability of danger, just saying it looks like the intention was to ensure an arrest. If he *wanted* to hurt her there are dozens of take-downs expressly designed to use the force of the fall against the opponent. As a grappler, you should know that.

Oh. No. That is what I'm saying lol. Risk of injury is high regardless of intent. That is why you sign the waiver in the gym.
 
Those are clearly the only two choices ... brute force or patty-cake. :roll:

Really they are. What would you have done?
 
Oh hell no!

If I was that cop I'd have sung lullabies to her and braided her hair until she fell asleep THEN would have taken her into custody.:roll:

I've dented the hoods of a few cars with the foreheads of drunks. Sometimes you have to take a more assertive approach to get the idiot to shut up and start paying attention.
its funny that police cannot take a little more time with a citizen drunk or not to get them to comply and also use the same force they would use on a man..
 
I made this thread.. I am very disturbed by the fact that people feel the police always have to use brute force to handle a citizen and be justified..also they are not smart enough to use their brains instead of their muscle..and on a woman too.....sad..i am a property manager I better not look crooked at one of my tenants and I own the dam property...I would never do a woman like that drunk or not..black or white
 
its funny that police cannot take a little more time with a citizen drunk or not to get them to comply and also use the same force they would use on a man..

They can take as much time as they want but, generally speaking, the more you let the suspect do what they want the more dangerous the situation gets for you. That's especially true with intoxicated detainees.

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Let me just add that it's also safer for the suspect if the cop takes quick and decisive action to maintain control. If a drunk breaks loose and runs into the path of a moving vehicle the result is likely to be a lot worse than a bump on the head.
 
I made this thread.. I am very disturbed by the fact that people feel the police always have to use brute force to handle a citizen and be justified..also they are not smart enough to use their brains instead of their muscle..and on a woman too.....sad..i am a property manager I better not look crooked at one of my tenants and I own the dam property...I would never do a woman like that drunk or not..black or white

You don't deal with drunks all day do you? Non compliant, untrustworthy, aggressive, and unpredictable.

I suggest going on a ride along at the hours of closing time at a bar. It will make more sense then why cops act the way they do towards drunks. Especially dumb ones. Plus they see the results of stupid drunks who drive.
 
They can take as much time as they want but, generally speaking, the more you let the suspect do what they want the more dangerous the situation gets for you. That's especially true with intoxicated detainees.

I think they should negotiate with them. :eyeroll:

They are drunk.
 
Then go apply at your local police force and show them how it's done

:roll: Seriously?

Your response is an implicit, "But it's so haaard to handcuff a 120-pound woman who's barely on her feet"?

Good lord, I haven't the patience...
 
It does not matter how you FEEEEEL about the level to which the officer followed the protocal. Thats between the officer and the department and the department has stated in fact he DID follow protocol. FEEEEELINGS about it are irrelevant.
 
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