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Moral question

Should one of the men be forsaken?

  • forsake the last guy

    Votes: 8 47.1%
  • do not forsake the last guy

    Votes: 9 52.9%

  • Total voters
    17
  • Poll closed .

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There are three human beings on a raft out in the sea. They are all rather the same; each is your average Joe, a good guy who does his work and gets along well with those around him.

This raft however is made of a material that doesn't have enough buoyancy to be able to keep all three men afloat, evident by its slow descent into the water the longer the three men stay on it. The water below is icy cold and the temperature combined with the moisture is enough to kill a man after hardly a dozen minutes of exposure (guy becomes unconscious and then drowns/dies of hypothermia).

The raft does however, have the buoyancy to support two guys.

Should one be forsaken? Simple moral question, there is no right or wrong. But this is mainly a test to see what you would do.

EDIT

There is no other option. You either forsake this man or have him hang on with the rest. You may give reasoning and you may debate other's reasoning.
 
Start bailing and take turns at blowing more air into the raft.
 
There are three human beings on a raft out in the sea. They are all rather the same; each is your average Joe, a good guy who does his work and gets along well with those around him.

This raft however is made of a material that doesn't have enough buoyancy to be able to keep all three men afloat, evident by its slow descent into the water the longer the three men stay on it. The water below is icy cold and the temperature combined with the moisture is enough to kill a man after hardly a dozen minutes of exposure (guy becomes unconscious and then drowns/dies of hypothermia).

The raft does however, have the buoyancy to support two guys.

Should one be forsaken? Simple moral question, there is no right or wrong. But this is mainly a test to see what you would do.

EDIT

There is no other option. You either forsake this man or have him hang on with the rest. You may give reasoning and you may debate other's reasoning.

One man's got to go. Will it be you?
 
Start bailing and take turns at blowing more air into the raft.

Awe come on. Changing the rules is for wimps.
 
One man's got to go. Will it be you?

So forsake the last man (the last man could be any of them)?

P.S. You are not part of this, rather, picture yourself as one who pulls the "strings" of the three men. Remember they are all of the same caliber.
 
Yeah right.
 
I would not put anyone overboard. Excepting yourself of course, because you're plainly a troublemaker.

We're in it together.
 
So forsake the last man (the last man could be any of them)?

P.S. You are not part of this, rather, picture yourself as one who pulls the "strings" of the three men. Remember they are all of the same caliber.

That would make 4.
Draw straws.
 
I would not put anyone overboard. Excepting yourself of course, because you're plainly a troublemaker.

We're in it together.

You're not getting what the question entails. You are not a part of this. You're an observer who has the ability to manipulate their actions. In other words, you aren't on that raft. Think of yourself as in the position of God but with the caveat that these two are the only options you may take in this scenario.
 
That would make 4.
Draw straws.

Or draw them a lifeboat.

Or a Chinook.

You know, if we are pulling the strings of the men...
 
You're not getting what the question entails. You are not a part of this. You're an observer who has the ability to manipulate their actions. In other words, you aren't on that raft. Think of yourself as in the position of God but with the caveat that these two are the only options you may take in this scenario.

I'm feckin God. I can take whatever I want in this scenario. You can't confine me (or anything else for that matter).

So being God, I'll just help the men.
 
You're not getting what the question entails. You are not a part of this. You're an observer who has the ability to manipulate their actions. In other words, you aren't on that raft. Think of yourself as in the position of God but with the caveat that these two are the only options you may take in this scenario.

Being as I am God like, a dammed ship would suddenly appear.
As they were praying, including the Atheists, I answered their prayers.
The Atheist was the swing vote, on advice from the Council of Miracles I have to assist me in my God like position.
 
One has to go given the strict scenario - draw straws.
 
1 goes. Needs of the many rule.
 
The answer is "forsake the last guy," as the only alternative is they all eventually parish when the raft sinks from all of their weight.

This question is not designed to be some trick where there is a method to save them all, it is also not designed to suggest any of the three are less of value in terms of the moral code of protecting life. It is simply a philosophical question on the importance of all life when faced with the consideration that one has to be sacrificed to save the other two.

You either do it and sacrifice one, or they all go. The rational choice is to save as many as possible even if it means as a "puppet" for the situation you select that one dies.
 
There are three human beings on a raft out in the sea. They are all rather the same; each is your average Joe, a good guy who does his work and gets along well with those around him.

This raft however is made of a material that doesn't have enough buoyancy to be able to keep all three men afloat, evident by its slow descent into the water the longer the three men stay on it. The water below is icy cold and the temperature combined with the moisture is enough to kill a man after hardly a dozen minutes of exposure (guy becomes unconscious and then drowns/dies of hypothermia).

The raft does however, have the buoyancy to support two guys.

Should one be forsaken? Simple moral question, there is no right or wrong. But this is mainly a test to see what you would do.

EDIT

There is no other option. You either forsake this man or have him hang on with the rest. You may give reasoning and you may debate other's reasoning.

I'd keep the one with the purtiest mouth!:lol:
 
3 "good" men yet none choose to sacrifice themselves to save the others?

More like 3 selfish soon to be dead men
 
There are three human beings on a raft out in the sea. They are all rather the same; each is your average Joe, a good guy who does his work and gets along well with those around him.

This raft however is made of a material that doesn't have enough buoyancy to be able to keep all three men afloat, evident by its slow descent into the water the longer the three men stay on it. The water below is icy cold and the temperature combined with the moisture is enough to kill a man after hardly a dozen minutes of exposure (guy becomes unconscious and then drowns/dies of hypothermia).

The raft does however, have the buoyancy to support two guys.

Should one be forsaken? Simple moral question, there is no right or wrong. But this is mainly a test to see what you would do.

EDIT

There is no other option. You either forsake this man or have him hang on with the rest. You may give reasoning and you may debate other's reasoning.


the kobayashi maru dilemma

is there a way to cheat it here?

it is virtually impossible to determine what one would do in a situation like that, until actually faced with a situation like that

you can say you would do this or that, but no one really knows

there are hundreds, maybe thousands of such scenarios, and until it hits you in the face, you really have zero idea
 
Everyone dies. Better to die without the stain of murder on one's soul. I would not throw anyone overboard, though I would do everything possible to survive, and keep everyone alive, for as long as possible.
 
There are three human beings on a raft out in the sea. They are all rather the same; each is your average Joe, a good guy who does his work and gets along well with those around him.

This raft however is made of a material that doesn't have enough buoyancy to be able to keep all three men afloat, evident by its slow descent into the water the longer the three men stay on it. The water below is icy cold and the temperature combined with the moisture is enough to kill a man after hardly a dozen minutes of exposure (guy becomes unconscious and then drowns/dies of hypothermia).

The raft does however, have the buoyancy to support two guys.

Should one be forsaken? Simple moral question, there is no right or wrong. But this is mainly a test to see what you would do.

EDIT

There is no other option. You either forsake this man or have him hang on with the rest. You may give reasoning and you may debate other's reasoning.

Join forces with one of the other guys and vote the 3rd off the raft... after asking for volunteers first of course. :lol:
 
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