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    Re: Moral question

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    There are three human beings on a raft out in the sea. They are all rather the same; each is your average Joe, a good guy who does his work and gets along well with those around him.

    This raft however is made of a material that doesn't have enough buoyancy to be able to keep all three men afloat, evident by its slow descent into the water the longer the three men stay on it. The water below is icy cold and the temperature combined with the moisture is enough to kill a man after hardly a dozen minutes of exposure (guy becomes unconscious and then drowns/dies of hypothermia).

    The raft does however, have the buoyancy to support two guys.

    Should one be forsaken? Simple moral question, there is no right or wrong. But this is mainly a test to see what you would do.

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    There is no other option. You either forsake this man or have him hang on with the rest. You may give reasoning and you may debate other's reasoning.
    I'd keep the one with the purtiest mouth!

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    Re: Moral question

    3 "good" men yet none choose to sacrifice themselves to save the others?

    More like 3 selfish soon to be dead men

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    Re: Moral question

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    There are three human beings on a raft out in the sea. They are all rather the same; each is your average Joe, a good guy who does his work and gets along well with those around him.

    This raft however is made of a material that doesn't have enough buoyancy to be able to keep all three men afloat, evident by its slow descent into the water the longer the three men stay on it. The water below is icy cold and the temperature combined with the moisture is enough to kill a man after hardly a dozen minutes of exposure (guy becomes unconscious and then drowns/dies of hypothermia).

    The raft does however, have the buoyancy to support two guys.

    Should one be forsaken? Simple moral question, there is no right or wrong. But this is mainly a test to see what you would do.

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    There is no other option. You either forsake this man or have him hang on with the rest. You may give reasoning and you may debate other's reasoning.

    the kobayashi maru dilemma

    is there a way to cheat it here?

    it is virtually impossible to determine what one would do in a situation like that, until actually faced with a situation like that

    you can say you would do this or that, but no one really knows

    there are hundreds, maybe thousands of such scenarios, and until it hits you in the face, you really have zero idea
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    Re: Moral question

    Everyone dies. Better to die without the stain of murder on one's soul. I would not throw anyone overboard, though I would do everything possible to survive, and keep everyone alive, for as long as possible.

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    Re: Moral question

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    There are three human beings on a raft out in the sea. They are all rather the same; each is your average Joe, a good guy who does his work and gets along well with those around him.

    This raft however is made of a material that doesn't have enough buoyancy to be able to keep all three men afloat, evident by its slow descent into the water the longer the three men stay on it. The water below is icy cold and the temperature combined with the moisture is enough to kill a man after hardly a dozen minutes of exposure (guy becomes unconscious and then drowns/dies of hypothermia).

    The raft does however, have the buoyancy to support two guys.

    Should one be forsaken? Simple moral question, there is no right or wrong. But this is mainly a test to see what you would do.

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    There is no other option. You either forsake this man or have him hang on with the rest. You may give reasoning and you may debate other's reasoning.
    Join forces with one of the other guys and vote the 3rd off the raft... after asking for volunteers first of course.

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    Re: Moral question

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    Everyone dies. Better to die without the stain of murder on one's soul. I would not throw anyone overboard, though I would do everything possible to survive, and keep everyone alive, for as long as possible.
    If you're going to die anyway and believe in the hereafter, why not volunteer and die with sacrificing for others on one's soul.

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    Re: Moral question

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    3 "good" men yet none choose to sacrifice themselves to save the others?

    More like 3 selfish soon to be dead men
    If only good were perfect.
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    Re: Moral question

    They all die.

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    Re: Moral question

    At the end of the day, someone is going overboard. You can draw straws, play rock paper scissors, king of the raft, whatever, but two men live, one man dies. Mankind survives. These questions arent as difficult in real life as people want them to be. The 'noble' thought of all three dying together is just plain stupid.

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    Re: Moral question

    Quote Originally Posted by Luftwaffe View Post
    There are three human beings on a raft out in the sea. They are all rather the same; each is your average Joe, a good guy who does his work and gets along well with those around him.

    This raft however is made of a material that doesn't have enough buoyancy to be able to keep all three men afloat, evident by its slow descent into the water the longer the three men stay on it. The water below is icy cold and the temperature combined with the moisture is enough to kill a man after hardly a dozen minutes of exposure (guy becomes unconscious and then drowns/dies of hypothermia).

    The raft does however, have the buoyancy to support two guys.

    Should one be forsaken? Simple moral question, there is no right or wrong. But this is mainly a test to see what you would do.

    EDIT

    There is no other option. You either forsake this man or have him hang on with the rest. You may give reasoning and you may debate other's reasoning.
    The good old kill a million to save a billion situation.
    The answer is actually a lot simpler than people would think; if no option exists to save them all then the fewer that die the better.

    Since the decision maker does not appear to be one of them and does not seem to have any connection to any of them then the choice making here is a lot easier moral-wise, and there should be no moral concerns for picking one randomly and letting him go. After all morals are relative to the situation and it is never immoral to pick the most moral choice of those available.

    If the decision maker was one of the three or had connection to one of them - then things get confusing.
    "The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of moral crisis."

    Dante Alighieri

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