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Thread: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    it has come true. by voting for politicians.....woman thinks obama is going to pay her bills.



    how can you move on if federal direct tax is everywhere?
    So let me get this straight, you are trying to support the truthiness of a made up quote falsely attributed to a 18th century Scot about "tyranny" by referring to a single confused American?

    If this is supposed to be a display of your use of superior logic, I will simply allow it to be.

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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by gimmesometruth View Post
    so let me get this straight, you are trying to support the truthiness of a made up quote falsely attributed to a 18th century scot about "tyranny" by referring to a single confused american?

    If this is supposed to be a display of your use of superior logic, i will simply allow it to be.

    what this video is saying is, that people vote for politicians for the intention that the politician is going to give them something.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    what this video is saying is, that people vote for politicians for the intention that the politician is going to give them something.
    LOL....what she said was:

    "I won't have to worry about putting gas in my car, about paying my mortgage...."

    This was not a comment about social services, it was a comment about economic recovery in 2008. Lots of folks in 2008 were worried about not making enough to pay mortgages and for gas.

    But hey, context, details, understanding and comprehension.....who needs 'em when unattributable quotes supposedly from 18th century Scots will do.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Not at all. My logic is strictly focused on the problem we have with those who have no dog in the fight and who will suffer no negative consequence from their vote and/or those who hope to profit at the expense of others with their vote. Degree of profit and negative consequence is of little importance.
    Everyone votes for people who promise benefits, which, I think, is the common sense. Citizens who are not on welfare may want better working conditions whereas those who are on welfare want more welfare. For me, those are the same.

    Your original argument centers around that people on welfare do not pay tax. However, they still contribute to the society to some degree. They consume goods or services, and that is what powers the economy.
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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Well that is true. But I wonder why it is that those who can't grasp it are nevertheless dead certain I am not only wrong, but evil.
    No you are not evil. You just sort of ignore that liberty and equality are the bases of the society, at least according to the constitution. The government will not be dumb to deprive those on welfare of voting because that would mean capitalism is not good. The rich will not allow that to happen. If they want the result of vote to be in their favor, they can just spend some money to satisfy those in need. However, if the current system is challenged or even toppled, they lose control. The right to vote is so vital.
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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    LOL....what she said was:

    "I won't have to worry about putting gas in my car, about paying my mortgage...."

    This was not a comment about social services, it was a comment about economic recovery in 2008. Lots of folks in 2008 were worried about not making enough to pay mortgages and for gas.

    But hey, context, details, understanding and comprehension.....who needs 'em when unattributable quotes supposedly from 18th century Scots will do.



    from the very woman in the video....and questions posed to her.

    did obama pay for your gas?.....absolutely not.

    did obama pay your mortgage?....absolutely not.
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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    did obama pay for your gas?.....absolutely not.
    Hmmm and oddly enough gas prices have gone way down from the high.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Hmmm and oddly enough gas prices have gone way down from the high.
    yes.... they have drilling in the u.s has increased and the ability to frag is producing also, causing prices to go down however that does have a side effect of job lose.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post

    from the very woman in the video....and questions posed to her.

    did obama pay for your gas?.....absolutely not.

    did obama pay your mortgage?....absolutely not.
    Huur...duur. She is a soccer Mom, a nurse with 2 children.....she never used SNAP or TANF.

    Again for the hard of understanding, she was WORRIED about NOT being able to pay her mortgage fuel bills, she never expected a POTUS to do it, she was never on welfare. She was hoping the economy would improve to alleviate her concerns, it was about economics, not welfare.

    Frigging bag of hammers argument.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    yes.... they have drilling in the u.s has increased and the ability to frag is producing also, causing prices to go down however that does have a side effect of job lose.
    Wait a second here what are you trying to say now? You want higher gas prices because of job losses?

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