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Thread: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I imagine you are trying to say something, and when you have it worked out, let me know.
    It is not outlandish to suggest that the same assumptions that separate childhood from adulthood also separate some adults from other adults. Some adults need society (other adults) to survive. They are thus for all intents and purposes society's dependents. Since dependents typically don't get to vote (because, duh, they're dependents) it is not outlandish to suggest their voting rights be discounted relative to those adults who are having to be the providers.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    It is not outlandish to suggest that the same assumptions that separate childhood from adulthood also separate some adults from other adults. Some adults need society (other adults) to survive. They are thus for all intents and purposes society's dependents. Since dependents typically don't get to vote (because, duh, they're dependents) it is not outlandish to suggest their voting rights be discounted relative to those adults who are having to be the providers.
    That is called a s t r e t c h.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    That is called a s t r e t c h.
    I imagine it would seem like that to you considering how much difficulty you're having understanding what inherently separates minors from adults.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I imagine it would seem like that to you considering how much difficulty you're having understanding what inherently separates minors from adults.
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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Some adults need society (other adults) to survive.
    Whew...now I did not see that one coming!

    Thank goodness we don't need to depend on other peop....er...adults, we are, after all, totally AUTONOMOUS beings, not needing farmers, doctors, soldiers, scientists, wives, husbands.....we can do everything ourselves....ABSOLUTELY! It does not take a village, it only takes oneself (too seriously)!
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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    It is not outlandish to suggest that the same assumptions that separate childhood from adulthood also separate some adults from other adults. Some adults need society (other adults) to survive. They are thus for all intents and purposes society's dependents. Since dependents typically don't get to vote (because, duh, they're dependents) it is not outlandish to suggest their voting rights be discounted relative to those adults who are having to be the providers.
    You are a dependent.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Always distrust anyone who wants to disenfranchise voters. Obviously they are up to no good.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    What you think I understand and what I understand is irrelevant to this discussion as is abortion, LGBT issues, or any other issues of the week.

    My argument is focused on one single concept which I believe is within the context and intent of the OP: The morality (or the ethics or the rightness or wrongness or the consequences) of people being able to vote themselves benefits at the expense of others.

    Focus on that and we can have a discussion.
    Uh-uh. You said: "And I will never agree to vote for government in which pragmatism trumps moral convictions." and I'm calling you on that statement. YOUR morality is not the same as everyone else's. Do you want to see what life is like in a nation ruled by moral convictions instead of pragmatic government? Go read "The Handmaid's Tale". Or go read about life under the Puritans. Or life under ISIS.

    That, ma'am, is what happens when people are ruled by one set of morals, wherein other sets of morals are not tolerated.
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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why does the government have to play a role in societal issues? Why can't the government only concern itself with rights?
    I know how you right-libertarians try to make everything black and white. "Does it violate my natural born rights? No, then it's okay. Yes, then government should step in." Unfortunately, issues are often not that simple. Let's take air pollution. I believe I have a right to breathe clean air. I'm sure you do, too. However, we live in a fossil-fuel dominated world. If we were to ban all fossil fuels immediately then our economy would crash. Still, I am involuntarily breathing in their pollutants. In severe cases, some people may develop lung cancer. It is not an easy issue to resolve, and that is why we need government regulation of air quality to strike a balance between one extreme and the other.
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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    No but, when you get off welfare, please step into the booth.

    A better question might be, "If you're on welfare do you always vote for a Democrat?"

    That isn't always true. I've known plenty of people that voted Republican. Kentucky has a lot of very poor areas and Obama didn't do good in many of the rural areas that are on welfare. Although historically the last 80 years, Kentucky has always voted for the winning candidate. A more appropriate question may be "If you're on welfare do you always vote for a Democrat, as long as the candidate isn't black?"
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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