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Thread: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    ........i don't know how you arrive that these interpreations.
    That does not surprise me in the least. Again, for the hard of reading, this thread is not about ME.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    given by whom?
    By the constitution and by birth as an American citizen.
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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    That does not surprise me in the least. Again, for the hard of reading, this thread is not about ME.
    what she has said to you, and what you think she said is not the same thing.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So you support robbery
    There is no robbery. Taxes are justified in the constitution.
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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    By the constitution and by birth as an American citizen.
    wrong.... the constitution does not grant any rights.

    the constitution grants power to the federal government only, along with the bill of rights rights which places restrictions on the federal government not to infringe on recognized rights of the constitution.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There is no robbery. Taxes are justified in the constitution.
    that is correct.....however forced taxation does violate the founding principles of america.

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    The right to to vote is one of the most important rights given to citizens.
    No question about it. But when an ability to vote includes trampling on the rights of others, it is fair game to question and evaluate that.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I didn't intend to show that. My intention was to answer the question suggested by the OP: Should Citizen A, who didn't merit or earn it, be able to vote himself/herself what Citizen B legally and ethically earned or acquired? Can you answer that question without veering off into a related but different topic?

    Those who vote for politicians because they promise to keep the freebies coming are doing just that.
    You don't know why anyone voted for any politician, unless they each specifically told you that they voted for that politician for the promised "freebies". I'm willing to bet that in reality, people don't vote for that one single thing, not the vast majority anyway.
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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    wrong.... the constitution does not grant any rights.

    the constitution grants power to the federal government only, along with the bill of rights rights which places restrictions on the federal government not to infringe on recognized rights of the constitution.
    The government cannot govern without the support and consent of its citizens.
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    Re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Many historians have studied that phenomenon and what they conclude simply does not support your argument. Most especially in the United States where starvation is rare and foolish given all the public and private resources to prevent it. So it is not hunger that drives welfare. Probably people on welfare include overweight kids and adults more than the general population as a whole.

    ". . .The "politically correct" theory is that poverty and discrimination is the cause of high crime rates. During my youth in the 1930s and 1940s, black neighborhoods were far safer than today. It would be preposterous to suggest back then there was less poverty and discrimination. . ."--Walter Williams.
    Walter Williams
    Your article simply has nothing to do with reality. People who are hungry are more likely to engage in populist revolutions. This is true and your argument simply doesn't refute that. I can cite hundreds of examples of revolts occurring because they are supported by starving masses. Taxes as we have them today, ensure that the poor aren't persuaded into mass revolts and start knocking on the doors of private communities.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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