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Thread: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Not only should those people be allowed to vote on whatever they want, wherever they want, so should everyone! Why should it matter if you've entered the U.S. illegally, or if you're just here for a couple weeks from Japan on vacation, or are a felon, or a member of ISIS, or even if you're only ten years old? Voting is a fundamental right--except for greedy people--and it's high time Americans completely rid themselves of this outdated notion that only those with some skin in the game should be able to vote. We're not living in the days of powdered wigs and muskets, where George Jefferson and Sam Adams and all those other old white slaveowners called the shots.

    You're driving through another state and happen to hear about a local water district having an election on some policy that affects farmers in a small valley? Go ahead and just drop in, for the hell of it, and cast your ballot! If the farmers whose crops depend on the outcome don't like you sticking your nose into something that will never affect you one iota, who cares? Or, maybe you're outraged by the fact some other state allows shops to close on Sundays, or allows businesses to refuse service to homosexuals. Just go there on election day and vote--and if the state's residents don't like it, that's just too damned bad. So what if they have to live with the result, and you don't?

    I think all of us who know what's best for the common good not only have the right to meddle in other people's lives, but also to vote ourselves a share of whatever they worked to earn. All of us, of course, except for the selfish people who already have grabbed more than they can spend. Those one-percenter facists should forfeit their right to vote. Screw that constatution the teabaggers are always yammering about, and screw that do-nothing congress. We can't let that diddly little crap stand in the way of progress! Let our president just issue a proclamation that no one he decides already has more than his fair share can vote on anything any longer, and that's that.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    You don't honor living in a democratic society? Why would anyone want the alternative?
    It's not as if there is only one alternative to democracy (totalitarianism). There are many systems of government. I just don't understand why I should prefer mob rule (democracy) to the rule of a tyrant (totalitarianism). At least a tyrant would care about securing the long term wealth of the country in order to benefit himself and his descendants. A politician only cares about getting elected and benefiting himself only as long as he is in office, and as such only cares about the short-term, even if it means the detriment of the long-term.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    It's not as if there is only one alternative to democracy (totalitarianism). There are many systems of government. I just don't understand why I should prefer mob rule (democracy) to the rule of a tyrant (totalitarianism). At least a tyrant would care about securing the long term wealth of the country in order to benefit himself and his descendants. A politician only cares about getting elected and benefiting himself only as long as he is in office, and as such only cares about the short-term, even if it means the detriment of the long-term.
    You don't like our system? What would you prefer?

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    It's nothing to do with abuse necessarily. Why should those who have no capital to protect have a say in how the capital of a country is distributed?
    because a man's worth is not measured by how much he has. At any day any of us could wake up and discover we lost it all. Stuff happens.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    because a man's worth is not measured by how much he has. At any day any of us could wake up and discover we lost it all. Stuff happens.
    The point is that those with little wealth would prefer to vote themselves more wealth, even to the detriment of the long term health of the country, even though it would be immoral.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    You don't like our system? What would you prefer?
    I personally am a voluntaryist. I support subsidiarity and believe that our current governments are too large and powerful and are actively destroying our wealth and liberties.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    The point is that those with little wealth would prefer to vote themselves more wealth, even to the detriment of the long term health of the country, even though it would be immoral.
    The irony is the opposite is happening.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    lol voting is not the issue.
    Politicians being able to use taxpayer money to hand out to their constituents is. That should be stopped, but you stop it at the source (no taxes), or alternatively you stop it the next step down which is that they cannot use public funds in that way. Doing away with their right to vote, that's like shooting an elephant to to kill a fly on its trunk. It kills the fly, but 6 metric tons of innocent elephant flesh with it

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    The irony is the opposite is happening.


    "Freedom"

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    Should they be allowed to vote while on welfare?
    Yes.

    And in anticipation of your next poll, no, I don't think we should have debtors' prisons either.

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