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Thread: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Madison didn't foresee the bulk of government funding coming from other than property taxes. Point dismissed.
    sorry no, there premise his that if people have nothing at stake, then they will use their vote, by means of injustice to take from others.

    which is why voting is a privilege and not a right.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    And if everyone can't vote, then those with property will use the power of their vote by means of injustice to prevent the acquirement of property by those that don't.
    why would the average citizen, who would say own a 1/3 acre want to prevent the people with no vote, to ability to acquire property...for what reason?

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    By placing power in those who hold the wealth of nations, all these wealthy men need to do in the 21st century is push legislation via deep pockets to basically rid power of any unified groups that go against their agenda (which is more wealth and power in their very few hands). And, that is exactly the system we have today.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    why would the average citizen, who would say own a 1/3 acre want to prevent the people with no vote, to ability to acquire property...for what reason?
    To preserve and increase their own wealth.
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    "Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education" - FDR

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ronpaulvoter View Post
    In other words, should any destitute tramp be allowed to just vote for a living instead of working for one?
    Who gets to designate who is or is not a tramp? You?
    Is there life less valuable than yours?
    How many classes / social levels would you have?
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    To preserve and increase their own wealth.
    really... how not allowing another to have property increase my wealth?....

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    really... how not allowing another to have property increase my wealth?....
    Because if you have that property instead, it can be used as a means to build wealth.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    Because if you have that property instead, it can be used as a means to build wealth.
    you are supposing that property is play between those that don't have any and those that do...and that is not the case.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you are supposing that property is play between those that don't have any and those that do...and that is not the case.
    What do you mean by 'is play'?
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Nilly View Post
    What do you mean by 'is play'?
    your statement eludes to that two people 1 with a vote, can use his vote to prevent the 1 without a vote from owning property both would be vying over.

    right to property.... is a natural right...votes cannot take it away from those with no property [land].

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