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Thread: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Ghetto people or not, they are still American citizens and still have the right to vote.
    Why? How does being an American citizen mean that you get the right to decide how the government interferes in the lives of others?

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    So you'd deny the vote to people simply because you don't like the way they might vote? Do you see anything wrong with that picture?
    Not at all. In fact that's a pretty good way of looking at it. I wouldn't want people who disagree with me to represent me, so why would I want people who disagree with me to vote on who gets to represent me?

    In any case the poor aren't a majority even if they all did manage to vote as a block. They're elected representatives are constrained by the Constitution, the Executive and the Judiciary. And finally the reality is money is power and is what makes the world go roud and by virtue of being poor the poor have very little power.
    Excuse the language, but LBJ would seem to disagree with you.


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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Interestingly enough we didn't have the massive deficit problem then like we do now. Interesting.
    Considering a fat-cat rich white guy put us into this deficit, I'll just bypass this comment.

    As it is, I will take the time to show my appreciation to Susan B. Anthony, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and all the other women who fought for my right to step into that voting booth, despite whether you, or any other knuckledragger, believes that I shouldn't have that right.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    You don't know this.
    Sure I do. If you give people with no money the opportunity to vote for themselves more money, of course they'll vote for it. Why not? You've legalized it and made it sound moral by instilling the "virtues" of democracy.

    Plus, those with plenty of wealth prefer to vote themselves both a) ways to maintain their current wealth by any means necessary and b) ways to increase their own wealth, even if through particularly corrupt means.
    Sure, but if the poor are not offered a vote then they can only get away with so much. However, once the democracy supports it, they can say that democracy has spoken and end all discussion.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Why? How does being an American citizen mean that you get the right to decide how the government interferes in the lives of others?
    It's called The Constitution.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by chloerenee97 View Post
    Literally do they? Literally?
    Man you sure have a hate on for poor people. Are you sure you are a Conservative?
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    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    It's called The Constitution.
    Are you aware that the Founding Fathers were against democracy?

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Literally everybody pays taxes of some sort.
    No, everyone does not pay taxes.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Sure I do. If you give people with no money the opportunity to vote for themselves more money, of course they'll vote for it. Why not? You've legalized it and made it sound moral by instilling the "virtues" of democracy.
    Why aren't government employees and welfare recipients making $80,000 per year? It seems illogical that welfare recipients would make so little. What's the catch? Why are they voting themselves small amounts of money?

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