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Thread: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Of course it wasn't, because only landowning white males were allowed to vote during that time.
    has nothing to do with who votes, be they white, black or woman.

    the constitution created a government, based on monarchy, aristocracy, and democracy rolled into 1.....because all three types of government by themselves, results in tyranny.

    because the government employs all three inside itself, tranny cannot take place, because the system is balanced, so no single entity can have all power.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I am a geo-mutualist. Feel free to look it up.
    Communist, got it.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Looks like we have a follower of Hoppe. Sorry, I do not submit to his feudalist thinking.

    That is just silly.
    Respond to the arguments.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Yup, definitely a Hoppe follower.

    Sorry, but monarchy/landlordism goes against everything I believe in.
    So your retort is nothing more than a blanket dismissal. That's disappointing.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    An excuse? The right to vote?

    Would you ever give the your typical welfare recipient (or anyone for that matter) your pin code? If not, then why would you allow them to vote over how much money the government takes from you?
    So all poor people are thieves, crooks and completely focused on self interest?
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    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    So all poor people are thieves, crooks and completely focused on self interest?
    No, but people respond to incentives, and if you give people the legal ability to vote themselves money for doing nothing, then by and large they are going to do it.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    has nothing to do with who votes, be they white, black or woman.

    the constitution created a government, based on monarchy, aristocracy, and democracy rolled into 1.....because all three types of government by themselves, results in tyranny.

    because the government employs all three inside itself, tranny cannot take place, because the system is balanced, so no single entity can have all power.
    ...And we are broadly defined as a democracy. You are really overcomplicating things here...
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Communist, got it.
    Actually, it's anarchist. Thank you for playing. Better luck next time.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Respond to the arguments.
    I did respond. I. DON'T. BELIEVE. IN. FEUDALISM.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    So your retort is nothing more than a blanket dismissal. That's disappointing.
    Hoppe doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.
    "Men did not make the earth ... it is the value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property... Every proprietor owes to the community a ground rent for the land which he holds." -- Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice
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