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Thread: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Of course it was a broad brush, but they aren't my opponents, and there's almost always an exception for every rule, and on this issue you prove that nicely.
    No, you haven't proven the rule. I posit that those who want to deny those on welfare the vote are the exception and I am more representative of the rule.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    Should they be allowed to vote while on welfare?
    Most corporate welfare recipients don't need to vote. They just buy the candidates that give them the most welfare.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    No but, when you get off welfare, please step into the booth.

    A better question might be, "If you're on welfare do you always vote for a Democrat?"
    Start a thread, we need to know who's on Welfare around here.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Most corporate welfare recipients don't need to vote. They just buy the candidates that give them the most welfare.
    Then vote out the politician.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    again..... ask yourself a simple question...who is your congressmen supposed work for?.......answer the people in your district who put him into office..

    since the senator is put into office by the state legislature...then who does he work for?.........answer...... the state legislature.
    Of course the 17th amendment screwed that up.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    Encouraging people who have low to no info on the issues to vote is without a doubt one of the worse things that can happen.
    Exactly how would we determine whether someone is "informed" enough to vote? And who gets to make that determination?
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    In fact, I would go much further and say that those who are making minimum wage ought not to vote.
    Most ridiculous statement I've read all day.

    It's those kinds of comments that make me hesitate in saying "I'm a libertarian."
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    What if we don't honor that?
    Democracy is the best system we have in order to solve societal issues. I'm sorry but you don't live in a bubble.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    The point is that those with little wealth would prefer to vote themselves more wealth, even to the detriment of the long term health of the country, even though it would be immoral.
    What makes you think that those with wealth wouldn't vote for even more wealth?
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    These kinds of polls are so stupid. Welfare is a small federal outlay in the scheme of things. So why just single them out. Why not include everyone on Social Security and Medicare considering that those are huge federal outlays and most people on those invariably get more in benefits than they paid in payroll taxes for them. So why not just exclude everyone over 65 from voting as well if you don't want people on the dole voting?
    People are not given a choice as to whether they pay into the Social Security and Medicare pools. They don't have to apply for the benefits they helped pay for, but they have no choice but to pay.

    So that is a very different thing from welfare.

    Evenso, as one who is drawing Social Security that comprises a large lion's share of my income, I can justify in my own mind voting for those who pledge to preserve my Social Security and Medicare benefits that I was forced to pay into and have really no alternative to go to. But at the same time, since I am now fully retired and am no longer paying into the system, it is difficult for me to justify having a vote to increase my Social Security and/or Welfare benefits at your expense.

    I just can't figure out any realistic way to restrict the vote to those who have to pay the bills.
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

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