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Thread: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why do liberals think tax cuts are welfare? How in the hell is keeping more of what you earn welfare?
    Is it a government program that benefits them? Are we not supposed to talk about people voting in their interest, or is that only bad if it's not for Republicans?


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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Is it a government program that benefits them? Are we not supposed to talk about people voting in their interest, or is that only bad if it's not for Republicans?
    What are you talking about? A tax cut is the government allowing someone to keep more of their money, while welfare is the government using the tax system to provide people with assistance. I wish liberals like yourself would learn that a tax cut is NOT welfare.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Really, insults?
    The idea of mobdemocracy deserves to be insulted.

    The thread IS about denying people the vote. You post said NOT ONE WORD you did not support it
    I'm not sure exactly what that second sentence was intended to mean, however, I voted "other", and stated I can see some merit in the idea.

    and you insult me as taking your position out of context.
    only because you did.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    What makes you think that the states no longer have a voice in government? That is absurd in the extreme and a denial of simple reality.
    simple...... because before the 17th, the senator was the representative of the state legislature, he submitted any legislation he received to vote on to his state legislature, who read the bill and directed him how to vote on it.

    all powers per federalism which was established by the constitution, laid powers in the federal government, while all others powers remained with the states, when the federal government creates any legislation which is not part of the delegated powers of congress, then it automatically is steeping into states powers, the states since they controlled the senate had the power to kill any bill which would violate the separation of powers.....keeping a check on federal power, maintaining the states powers, and preventing democracy from taking hold in america.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What are you talking about? A tax cut is the government allowing someone to keep more of their money, while welfare is the government using the tax system to provide people with assistance. I wish liberals like yourself would learn that a tax cut is NOT welfare.
    So tax cuts isn't using the tax system to help certain groups?


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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    simple...... because before the 17th, the senator was the representative of the state legislature, he submitted any legislation he received to vote on to his state legislature, who read the bill and directed him how to vote on it.

    all powers per federalism which was established by the constitution, laid powers in the federal government, while all others powers remained with the states, when the federal government creates any legislation which is not part of the delegated powers of congress, then it automatically is steeping into states powers, the states since they controlled the senate had the power to kill any bill which would violate the separation of powers.....keeping a check on federal power, maintaining the states powers, and preventing democracy from taking hold in america.
    What a horrible misunderstanding of what happened!

    Where in the pre 17th Amendment Constitution were Senators required to send all bills to state legislatures? Where were they required to vote a certain way?


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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    you complain that our government has turned into an oligarchy , yet you are not for anything to stop it from happening.

    the very thing you are complaining about was stated would happen it democracy ever took over america in federalist 10.......why do you complain, and then refuse to want to correct the problem?
    No, some where concerned the majority of people would take over the government. That is not at all the issue. The wealthy have hijacked the political system. That is the issue.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So tax cuts isn't using the tax system to help certain groups?
    I suppose that can be the intent behind certain tax cuts. It is however still not welfare since the money was merely not taken.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I suppose that can be the intent behind certain tax cuts. It is however still not welfare since the money was merely not taken.
    So only certain people of a certain income level should be allowed to manipulate the tax system to their benefit?


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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, some where concerned the majority of people would take over the government. That is not at all the issue. The wealthy have hijacked the political system. That is the issue.
    Isn't that the expected outcome though? If you allow people to pit their interests against each other and pension the government for favors sooner or later the party with the most to offer will win.

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