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Thread: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post


    "Freedom"
    So...you showed a graph of how the tax code has continued to increase over time. And that proves what exactly? Just how many of those tax rules apply to the poor or lower-middle class folks compared to how many were written to give a distinct tax advantage to the rich?

    Keep in mind I begrudge no one for being rich. I'm just saying the tax code wasn't written for the poor nor the middle-class. Yeah, there are a couple of bones thrown in there for the little guys, but overall the tax code is really for the rich.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    The vote is not sacrosanct. Taking away criminals' right to vote is fine - we do it already with felons, as we should. If you demonstrate that you cannot be trusted, you should not then be trusted with exercising authority over the global hyperpower.

    As for money in politics, getting rid of that is simple (if not easy). Get politics out of money.
    Then you are not a democracy. Period.

    You take away a man's right to vote for life because he was once busted with a joint.

    You want welfare recipients to be denied the vote because you want different results. Period.

    This is social engineering mixed with Fascism
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Just cut all the subtleties and nuances and simply only allow white males who own property and work in the private sector to vote if your desire is for the right wing to win the White House back.
    How very stereotypical of you...

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Sorry, in a democracy you do not deprive an economic class of people because your system is ****ed, that only makes it more ****ed.

    No one seems to have an issue with the millions and millions that flow into election coffers, that is influencing the vote. No one seems to have a problem with the wealthy class buying senators and congressmen, in this case a president.

    You don not fix any of that by taking away anyone's vote. You grow a pair and fix the ****ing government. FFS, for ten years now I have been hearing all this defeatist crap about how the system is broke, you can't fix it, and America is allegedly the inventor of Democracy.

    Even suggesting denial of the vote based on economic status is out of thew Cuban or North Korean playbook.
    I wish just once people could see and argue the concept that is being argued instead of the existing situation and law or worse on political correctness and/or what is 'polite to say'. I am NOT arguing that people lose their vote. I am arguing that it is unjust when the system allows people to vote themselves advantages and benefits at the expense of others who will be disadvantaged and receive no benefit. In my sense of justice that is wrong and should not stand. And yes, it requires a change in government and the law.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Then you are not a democracy. Period.
    Excellent. I have no desire to live in a democracy. Dangerous, stupid, things.

    You want welfare recipients to be denied the vote because you want different results. Period.
    I never said I wanted welfare recipients to be denied the vote. I said I can see some merit in the argument. But thank you for demonstrating the intellectual depth of your position.

    This is social engineering mixed with Fascism

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    since the states, no longer have a voice in the government, and cannot place a check on federal power........yes the 17th changed our form of government in a very big way.
    What makes you think that the states no longer have a voice in government? That is absurd in the extreme and a denial of simple reality.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    How very stereotypical of you...
    And truthful and accurate just the same. I believe in calling a spade a spade and if its a reeking pile of manure - saying it is. And that is what the idea behind this poll is.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And truthful and accurate just the same. I believe in calling a spade a spade and if its a reeking pile of manure - saying it is. And that is what the idea behind this poll is.
    Youre saying all white males who have property and work in the private sector are right wing conservatives? Puh-lease.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I wish just once people could see and argue the concept that is being argued instead of the existing situation and law or worse on political correctness and/or what is 'polite to say'. I am NOT arguing that people lose their vote. I am arguing that it is unjust when the system allows people to vote themselves advantages and benefits at the expense of others who will be disadvantaged and receive no benefit. In my sense of justice that is wrong and should not stand. And yes, it requires a change in government and the law.

    Well, the thread IS about denying people the vote and you seem to support that as a means to fix the problem.

    I did not take your post out of context, nor did I sideline it.

    I remain steadfast, the vote is sacrosanct. We have talked before about the American system. It is indeed ****ed. But it can be changed.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Excellent. I have no desire to live in a democracy. Dangerous, stupid, things.



    I never said I wanted welfare recipients to be denied the vote. I said I can see some merit in the argument. But thank you for demonstrating the intellectual depth of your position.





    Really, insults?

    The thread IS about denying people the vote. You post said NOT ONE WORD you did not support it...and you insult me as taking your position out of context.

    Nice.
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