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Thread: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Just cut all the subtleties and nuances and simply only allow white males who own property and work in the private sector to vote if your desire is for the right wing to win the White House back.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    What if value a free society more?
    How is denying people to vote because they use some program YOU dont like ensure "freedom"?
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    yes a republican form of government does, however america as not had a republican form of government in over 100 years.
    Get over it EB. It may not be your preferred version of republican government in the fine tradition of the 1700's - but it is just the same a republican form of government.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    As do I in practice. But philosophically, given the gross inequities in responsibility and affect created by government, the one person, one vote concept has created a different kind of injustice. If we could restore the government to the original concept in which no special classes exist and everybody, rich and poor, provides his/her proportional share, then of course the one person one vote model is the only reasonable model.

    But when he who robs Peter to pay Paul can count on support from Paul and all that . . .



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    Sorry, in a democracy you do not deprive an economic class of people because your system is ****ed, that only makes it more ****ed.

    No one seems to have an issue with the millions and millions that flow into election coffers, that is influencing the vote. No one seems to have a problem with the wealthy class buying senators and congressmen, in this case a president.

    You don not fix any of that by taking away anyone's vote. You grow a pair and fix the ****ing government. FFS, for ten years now I have been hearing all this defeatist crap about how the system is broke, you can't fix it, and America is allegedly the inventor of Democracy.

    Even suggesting denial of the vote based on economic status is out of thew Cuban or North Korean playbook.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Heinlein fan?
    He didn't include Police and firemen.

    And Yes, he proposed a different type of democratic society in which one had to actually do something to earn the privileges that so many now take for granted. If your not willing to fight and risk dying for it, then you don't deserve it.
    Be sure to work hard and get lots of overtime. People on welfare want more steaks and free upgrades to smart phones with unlimited data packages.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Get over it EB. It may not be your preferred version of republican government in the fine tradition of the 1700's - but it is just the same a republican form of government.
    sorry no its not....... the 17th, changed it

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    sorry no its not....... the 17th, changed it
    You really do not know what a republican form of government is if you believe for one moment that election of US Senators is all it took to change.
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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    There is really no point to barring them from voting. The vast majority of those that support welfare are not on welfare themselves and like those on welfare will not allow any movement to be made towards the elimination of the welfare state. Until we get to the point where the welfare supporters are not interested in growing the welfare state the only direction this country will take is further dependence on the state.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You really do not know what a republican form of government is if you believe for one moment that election of US Senators is all it took to change.
    since the states, no longer have a voice in the government, and cannot place a check on federal power........yes the 17th changed our form of government in a very big way.

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    re: Should people on welfare be allowed to vote?[W:504]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    And wealthy people contribute money to force government to its will tom line their pockets, and that's OK. Wealthy and middle class voters vote for their security as well, some are even swayed by 99 weeks of unemployment insurance. Lets' take their vote away too.

    And some welfare recipients might just vote according to their conscience, it is possible one American would do so on day. take his vote away because some other people might vote based on their pocket book?

    How about we take away the vote of people who might steal? Or take away the vote of drug users. People who cheat on taxes!

    You need to look at that stance, my friend. It's social engineering just like socialists.

    The vote is sacrosanct, and cannot be taken away because someone doesn't agree on their voting preferences. That's "democracy" in Cuba or North Korea.
    The vote is not sacrosanct. Taking away criminals' right to vote is fine - we do it already with felons, as we should. If you demonstrate that you cannot be trusted, you should not then be trusted with exercising authority over the global hyperpower.

    As for money in politics, getting rid of that is simple (if not easy). Get politics out of money.
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