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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Rational, you call exchanging 5 terrorists for a deserter is rational. And then tells the American people he served the United States with honor and distinction.
    Guy, we do whatever's necessary to bring our soldiers home...even if they were dirtbags. If we didn't bring him home, then the other soldiers would wonder, "would they do whatever it took to bring me home, or would they leave me to rot?" THAT ONE FACT - proving to every soldier everywhere that we will do whatever it takes to bring them home - more than anything else, is why we HAD to get him.

    Besides, prisoner swaps have been done all throughout history. Not too long ago the Israelis traded a freaking THOUSAND Palestinians for one of their own. So get over yourself, guy.

    And yeah, it sure looks like he was a deserter...but until he is convicted and declared guilty at a court-martial, he is NOT a deserter (or don't you believe in the rule of law?). If he's guilty, then he will get what's coming to him - and Leavenworth is no picnic.
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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Tell that to Osama bin Laden and Muammar Gaddafi.... Oh, wait
    Of which he had little to do with Osama and nothing to do with Gaddafi. Unless you want to debate whether Osama is really at the bottom of a sea.

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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Guy, we do whatever's necessary to bring our soldiers home...even if they were dirtbags. If we didn't bring him home, then the other soldiers would wonder, "would they do whatever it took to bring me home, or would they leave me to rot?" THAT ONE FACT - proving to every soldier everywhere that we will do whatever it takes to bring them home - more than anything else, is why we HAD to get him.

    Besides, prisoner swaps have been done all throughout history. Not too long ago the Israelis traded a freaking THOUSAND Palestinians for one of their own. So get over yourself, guy.

    And yeah, it sure looks like he was a deserter...but until he is convicted and declared guilty at a court-martial, he is NOT a deserter (or don't you believe in the rule of law?). If he's guilty, then he will get what's coming to him - and Leavenworth is no picnic.
    No, we don't do that. The USA government historically has rarely agreed to swapping military prisoners. This was first refused by Abraham Lincoln. His reasoning is that if prisoners are swapped the war goes on forever.

    If the army losing a battle could merely surrender, then be released on a prisoner swap to then go back into combat, there would be no such thing as destroying the enemy.

    It also is an incentive to take prisoners, including civilians, if this is a way to get your own leaders and troops back.

    The claim that we do anything to get our soldiers back is outright false and even militarily absurd.

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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol !!

    Destabilizing the Middle east wasn't rational, it was stupid and irresponsible as all get out.

    From Egypts " Arab Spring " to Lybia to Isis Obama's a walking Foreign Policy disaster.

    Lol...a " rational actor " ? You apologist crack me up.
    Yeah, blame the guy who tried to put the fire out instead of the guy who set the doggone place on fire to begin with! Good job, guy!
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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    You seriously think that Putin and Netenyahu see Obama as a "rational actor"? You seriously think the Saudis or the Chinese who rushed Snowden off to Russia from Hong Kong, you seriously think they see Obama as a "rational actor"?
    A heck of a lot more rational than the guy who came before him, yes.
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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm sorry but a significant number of Americans wanted him to pull out of Iraq, we're the ones that told Obama how high to jump. As to the rest, along with plenty of company, you're still in denial about the effects of a uni-polar world, and the determination of others to combat it.
    Yeah all the liberals and now we have the middle east in flames and Iran on the march and Putin telling Obama how high to jump. Obama is the worst ever foreign policy president in US history, for that matter he also holds the record for failed domestic policy.
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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    No. He's seen what's referred to as a "rational actor", meaning that he doesn't do stupid crap. It's just that most of the world's leaders know he's got to deal with a Congress controlled by irrational actors, for whom stupid crap is a way of life e.g. passing fifty-odd bills to try to take away what the rest of the free world takes for granted - access to quality health insurance for those who can't afford it.
    Nobody sees Obama a rational actor. He has demonstrated a disdain and ignorance about foreign policy and the use of American power. He's demonstrated that he's an unreliable ally and a push over to our enemies.
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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Guy, we do whatever's necessary to bring our soldiers home...even if they were dirtbags. If we didn't bring him home, then the other soldiers would wonder, "would they do whatever it took to bring me home, or would they leave me to rot?" THAT ONE FACT - proving to every soldier everywhere that we will do whatever it takes to bring them home - more than anything else, is why we HAD to get him.

    Besides, prisoner swaps have been done all throughout history. Not too long ago the Israelis traded a freaking THOUSAND Palestinians for one of their own. So get over yourself, guy.

    And yeah, it sure looks like he was a deserter...but until he is convicted and declared guilty at a court-martial, he is NOT a deserter (or don't you believe in the rule of law?). If he's guilty, then he will get what's coming to him - and Leavenworth is no picnic.
    You have it all wrong, he left and went to the other side of the battle, at that point he is not one of our own. Further Obama lied to the American people that he served the United States with honor and distinction. And because of his deserting we had American Solders die looking for his ass. He should go before a firing squad.

    Last he was known to be a deserter way before the swap ever took place.
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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quit living the fantasy that the US could turn Iraq or any other Middle East country into an Eden.

    Just 18 percent of Americans think the result of the war in Iraq was worth the loss of American lives and other costs of attacking Iraq, the lowest percentage ever recorded in CBS News Polls. Seventy-five percent do not think the Iraq War was worth it, up eight percentage points since 2011 (just before all U.S. troops were removed), and up 30 points since August 2003.

    Most Americans say Iraq war wasn't worth the costs: Poll - CBS News
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Nobody sees Obama a rational actor. He has demonstrated a disdain and ignorance about foreign policy and the use of American power. He's demonstrated that he's an unreliable ally and a push over to our enemies.
    That's not universally agreed upon.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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