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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol !!

    Destabilizing the Middle east wasn't rational, it was stupid and irresponsible as all get out.

    From Egypts " Arab Spring " to Lybia to Isis Obama's a walking Foreign Policy disaster.

    Lol...a " rational actor " ? You apologist crack me up.
    It was President Bush who Destabilized the Middle East, you crack me up. ISIS would not exist today if Bush didn't invade Iraq.

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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It was President Bush who Destabilized the Middle East, you crack me up. ISIS would not exist today if Bush didn't invade Iraq.
    True, but it wasn't just the removal of Hussein, but Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad, that has strengthened Iran and delivered the Islamic state. This is a bi-partisan effort.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I don't see what's not "rational" about him. He's often indecisive, but I wouldn't say he acts irrationally.

    Putin is quite often irrational.
    I don't think Putin is irrational if you understand Russian history and the Russian mindset. Obama had the CIA oust the Russian backed elected leader of Ukraine. Russia had warned not to do this. Russia has always considered Ukraine as its historical territory and this was always common knowledge that you never mess with Ukraine or else you get Russia. How Obama didn't fully grasp this nor did his advisers is beyond me. Obama's indecision once this all occurred is really historically unforgivable. This is geopolitical novice stuff here that even a bad student of history should have been able to predict Russian counters would occur. Putin is doing exactly what a Russian leader is supposed to.

    Indecision is irrationality though if it becomes a pattern. When Russian Spetsnaz are murdering your allies in their own country and you have no even basic direction and your allies are asking what's going on that sounds the near definition of irrational by even the most generous measurements. I don't think Obama was ready for the presidency geopoliticaly. He's getting geopolitically raped by Russia. He clearly doesn't know even the basic about Russian sentiments and how they see that part of the world. It's somewhat embarrassing.

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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    I don't think Putin is irrational if you understand Russian history and the Russian mindset. Obama had the CIA oust the Russian backed elected leader of Ukraine.
    This is poppycock. The CIA had no more input in the Maidan revolution than it had in multiple Middle East revolutions during the 2010-2012 Arab Spring. The CIA was actually caught flatfooted in all of these events.


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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Absolutely. Obama should have committed US forces (possibly a clone army) to Ukraine to fight the separatists, and he should be nuking both the entire Middle East (except Israel) and Moscow as we speak.
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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    This is poppycock. The CIA had no more input in the Maidan revolution than it had in multiple Middle East revolutions during the 2010-2012 Arab Spring. The CIA was actually caught flatfooted in all of these events.
    Laugh out loud.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Me too. You never did prove your CIA/Ukraine conspiracy.


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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?






    Wouldn't you have to ask foreign leaders that question? I suppose you want to know if I view foreign leaders as viewing Obama as weak. Not any weaker than Bush.
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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    "He's both a secret Muslin turrist and a radical Black Liberation Theology Christian. He's also a fascist war-monger and a communist wealth re-distributor. He's a pussy who capitulates to foreign governments, and a wannabe Steven Seagal who brutally orders the execution of innocent people. He's a do-nothing empty suit who has single-handedly destroyed the country."

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    Re: Is Obama viewed as "Weak" by Foreign Leaders?

    From an old Political Psychology textbook of mine:

    When decision makers hold the so-called colonial image of another country, they consider that country and its people to be inferior in terms of culture and capabilities. They also assume that the people are incompetent and childlike, and are ruled by a small elite who are generally not a threat and who are often corrupt.

    When an enemy image is held, that country is seen as equal in capability and culture and threatening in intentions. The enemy is ruled by a small elite, but one that can cleverly strategize policies that will attempt to hurt the perceivers country. The tactics used in responding to such a state are global in focus, competitive, and noncompromising, because you cannot trust such a country.

    An ally image is perceived as equal in terms of capability and culture, but also very similar to your country in values. Intentions of an ally are believed to be good.

    A country with a barbarian image are regarded as superior in capability and inferior in culture. They are also aggressive in intentions, which makes them very frightening.

    A country with an imperialist imagine is perceived to be superior in culture and capability but its intentions can be either harmful or benevolent. Either way, imperialists are a dominant people, and resisting them would be very difficult.

    A country with a rogue image is deemed to be inferior in capability and culture but also very harmful in its intentions.

    Lastly, there is the country with the degenerate image, which may be powerful and culturally advanced, but also weak-willed, undisciplined, and lacking the will to follow through on expressed goals and plans of action.


    I'd say that last is how we are generally viewed by the Putins, the Assads, the Khameini's, etc. of the world.
    “In America we have a two-party system,” a Republican congressional staffer told a visiting group of Russian legislators. “There is the stupid party. And there is the evil party. I am proud to be a member of the stupid party. Periodically, the two parties get together and do something that is both stupid and evil. This is called: bipartisanship."

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