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Thread: The new argument against gay equality: Same-sex marriage kills [W:142]

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    re: The new argument against gay equality: Same-sex marriage kills [W:142]

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    re: The new argument against gay equality: Same-sex marriage kills [W:142]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    WTF? Gay marriages do not produce children, thus they do not cause any abortions. If these religious asshats want to stop abortion, they should be fighting against heterosexual sex. What a bunch of idiots.
    Of course they do. Gay people reproduce naturally all the time and also use other means to add children to their families

    Altho married gays probably have a better chance of adopting, just like married straight people, so they will likely expand the pool of people looking to adopt and there may be less abortions because of that.
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    re: The new argument against gay equality: Same-sex marriage kills [W:142]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So I can be investigated if someone accused me and my partner having consensual anal sex? So I can be investigated if someone accused me and my partner having partaking in sexual fetish actions that involve feet (like a foot job)?
    He desires Old Testament Biblical law.

    People like him must be in absolute agony living in the US
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    re: The new argument against gay equality: Same-sex marriage kills [W:142]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Did they catch you in the act?
    Would gay couples have to be 'caught in the act' to be prosecuted?
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    re: The new argument against gay equality: Same-sex marriage kills [W:142]

    The new argument against gay equality: Same-sex marriage kills - The Washington Post

    But comes now Gene Schaerr, unsuccessful lawyer for Utah in that state’s case against same-sex marriages, to file an amicus brief with the Supreme Court on behalf of “100 scholars of marriage.”
    To wit: Legalizing same-sex marriage devalues marriage and causes fewer heterosexual couples to marry, which leads to a larger number of unmarried women, who have abortions at higher rates than married women. As a result, Schaerr wrote, “nearly 900,000 more children of the next generation would be aborted as a result of their mothers never marrying. This is equal to the entire population of the cities of Sacramento and Atlanta combined.”


    The bold is just hysterical. What a low, sad opinion he has of people that believe in marriage, esp. those that are religious. How weak their faith would have to be.

    I guess this is *his ultra conservative' understanding of 'science?'
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    re: The new argument against gay equality: Same-sex marriage kills [W:142]

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Banned? Good gracious. Who will enforce your ban and what will the punishment be? (penal code transitions to penile code)

    Sounds like you want Sharia type law in this land.
    The state. Punishments would depend on the severity of the crime.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What makes me severly mitigating the chances of having a child when I am not financially or emotionally ready to care for a child by using a condom during sex "taking the good away"?
    Procreation is the purpose of sex. So too separate procreation from sex removes the good of sex and makes it evil.

    Why not? Why does it matter if they have sex and you view it cant have a "legitimate sexual act" in your opinion? Why does marriage and your opinion of a "legitimate sexual act" matter? Aterall isnt marriage in its form "unnatural"? I mean I can still have legitimate sex (because based on your opinion its when you can reproduce) when im not married.. What does sex have to do with marriage? And how is marriage natural?
    Marriage proceeds from man's natural urge to provide for his children. You can procreate without marriage, but not well.

    But you said the state derives its authority from natural law. So you need to explain how its natural then...
    Not everything the state does follows from the first principles of nature.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Would gay couples have to be 'caught in the act' to be prosecuted?
    Unless there was other proof.

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    re: The new argument against gay equality: Same-sex marriage kills [W:142]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post

    Meaning that authority can't violate the natural law.
    Your appeal to 'natural law' as an end run to avoid admitting you are referring to religion and specifically Catholicism is fooling no one.

    There is no such thing as natural law and its usage is still a recognition of a higher being or force driving the natural world...which does not exist.

    The only natural laws are those of biology, physics, chemistry, geology, etc. And they are driven by nothing but natural forces, not some higher power.

    You should really give this attempted argument up, someone calls you out on it everytime.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: The new argument against gay equality: Same-sex marriage kills [W:142]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Your appeal to 'natural law' as an end run to avoid admitting you are referring to religion and specifically Catholiscm is fooling no one.

    There is no such thing as natural law and it's usage is still a recognition of a higher being or force driving the natural world...which does not exist.

    The only natural laws are those of biology, physics, chemistry, geology, etc. And they are driven by nothing but natural forces, not some higher power.

    You should really give this attempted argument up, someone calls you out on it everytime.
    Your obsession with my religion is not relevant to anything that's been said.

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    re: The new argument against gay equality: Same-sex marriage kills [W:142]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa
    Would gay couples have to be 'caught in the act' to be prosecuted?
    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post

    Unless there was other proof.
    Like what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: The new argument against gay equality: Same-sex marriage kills [W:142]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Like what?
    A confession, a recording, etc.

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