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    Poland Demands Apology Over F.B.I. Director’s Holocaust Remarks

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/21/wo...html?ref=world

    Mr. Comey’s remarks came in a generally well-received speech on Wednesday at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington; portions of the speech were later published in The Washington Post.

    In the passage that prompted the angry reaction in Poland, he said: “In their minds, the murderers and accomplices of Germany, and Poland and Hungary, and so many, many other places didn’t do something evil. They convinced themselves it was the right thing to do, the thing they had to do. That’s what people do. And that should truly frighten us.”
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    Denmark in the Holocaust: Bo Lidegaard's "Countrymen," Reviewed | The New Republic

    http://www.internationalresearchcent...ndBetrayal.pdf
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    Re: Poland Demands Apology Over F.B.I. Director’s Holocaust Remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/21/wo...html?ref=world

    Mr. Comey’s remarks came in a generally well-received speech on Wednesday at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington; portions of the speech were later published in The Washington Post.

    In the passage that prompted the angry reaction in Poland, he said: “In their minds, the murderers and accomplices of Germany, and Poland and Hungary, and so many, many other places didn’t do something evil. They convinced themselves it was the right thing to do, the thing they had to do. That’s what people do. And that should truly frighten us.”

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    Denmark in the Holocaust: Bo Lidegaard's "Countrymen," Reviewed | The New Republic

    http://www.internationalresearchcent...ndBetrayal.pdf
    What he said was exactly and importantly true.

    It is something that we see, much too often, happening in our own society. Too much evil in our own society, practiced, embraced, and defended by those who ought to clearly know better, but who have deceived themselves into thinking that there's nothing wrong with it.

    But what does the main character from Idiocracy have to do with this question, that he should be mentioned as pone of the responses?
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    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Poland Demands Apology Over F.B.I. Director’s Holocaust Remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    What he said was exactly and importantly true.

    It is something that we see, much too often, happening in our own society. Too much evil in our own society, practiced, embraced, and defended by those who ought to clearly know better, but who have deceived themselves into thinking that there's nothing wrong with it.

    But what does the main character from Idiocracy have to do with this question, that he should be mentioned as pone of the responses?
    Where? Ref the underlined. I am missing something?
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    Re: Poland Demands Apology Over F.B.I. Director’s Holocaust Remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Where? Ref the underlined. I am missing something?
    Yes. You are missing something.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Poland Demands Apology Over F.B.I. Director’s Holocaust Remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Yes. You are missing something.
    Enlighten me.
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    Re: Poland Demands Apology Over F.B.I. Director’s Holocaust Remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Enlighten me.
    You may just have to watch the movie.
    The five great lies of the Left Wrong:
    We can be Godless and free. • “Social justice” through forced redistribution of wealth. • Silencing religious opinions counts as “diversity”. • Freedom without moral and personal responsibility. • Civilization can survive the intentional undermining of the family.

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    Re: Poland Demands Apology Over F.B.I. Director’s Holocaust Remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/21/wo...html?ref=world

    “In their minds, the murderers and accomplices of Germany, and Poland and Hungary, and so many, many other places didn’t do something evil. They convinced themselves it was the right thing to do, the thing they had to do. That’s what people do. And that should truly frighten us.”
    I don't see anything wrong with his statement above at all... it is accurate and in line with remember the past lest we repeat it.
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    Re: Poland Demands Apology Over F.B.I. Director’s Holocaust Remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    You may just have to watch the movie.
    That is what I thought you meant but said nah, no way. Must be something in the article and links.
    But then again may have to.
    Highly recommended?
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    Re: Poland Demands Apology Over F.B.I. Director’s Holocaust Remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with his statement above at all... it is accurate and in line with remember the past lest we repeat it.
    I agree.
    The Germans were welcomed by many when they invaded Holland. That did not last long.
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    Re: Poland Demands Apology Over F.B.I. Director’s Holocaust Remarks


    We do not get to re-write history here because it may not sit well.

    The harsh truth of the matter is there was plenty of antisemitism among the Polish people prior to and of course during the war. In that context, antisemitism among the people of Poland and Germany all predate the Nazis in any sense.

    However, the conditions of WWII made for some awkward relations between all these groups of people. Once Poland fell losing some 66K (twice that injured) soldiers in the process there was little choice but to handle a new reality. German forces regarded the Polish people as just one notch above the Jews, and they both suffered greatly because of it.

    It would be foolish to suggest no Polish people helped the occupying Germans in their effort to kill off as many Jews as possible, but it would be equally foolish to suggest there was some unwritten rule saying all polish people were helping the Germans. We also have to consider motivations here, for many Polish people they knew if they did not help the Germans they may face a fate similar as many Jewish people, homosexuals, and others faced. If for no other reason than they did not help the Germans in a way the Germans dictated.
    "Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

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