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Poland Demands Apology Over F.B.I. Director’s Holocaust Remarks

Should the Director apologize?

  • Yes - he was wrong

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No- he was right

    Votes: 5 83.3%

  • Politics -The Govt. will order him to apologize

    Votes: 2 33.3%

  • Not sure

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JANFU

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/21/w...s-comey-fbi-director-holocaust.html?ref=world

Mr. Comey’s remarks came in a generally well-received speech on Wednesday at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington; portions of the speech were later published in The Washington Post.

In the passage that prompted the angry reaction in Poland, he said: “In their minds, the murderers and accomplices of Germany, and Poland and Hungary, and so many, many other places didn’t do something evil. They convinced themselves it was the right thing to do, the thing they had to do. That’s what people do. And that should truly frighten us.”
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Some links.

Denmark in the Holocaust: Bo Lidegaard's "Countrymen," Reviewed | The New Republic

http://www.internationalresearchcen...ernsOfCooperationCollaborationAndBetrayal.pdf
 
JANFU said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/21/w...s-comey-fbi-director-holocaust.html?ref=world

Mr. Comey’s remarks came in a generally well-received speech on Wednesday at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington; portions of the speech were later published in The Washington Post.

In the passage that prompted the angry reaction in Poland, he said: “In their minds, the murderers and accomplices of Germany, and Poland and Hungary, and so many, many other places didn’t do something evil. They convinced themselves it was the right thing to do, the thing they had to do. That’s what people do. And that should truly frighten us.”​

Some links.

Denmark in the Holocaust: Bo Lidegaard's "Countrymen," Reviewed | The New Republic

http://www.internationalresearchcen...ernsOfCooperationCollaborationAndBetrayal.pdf
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What he said was exactly and importantly true.

It is something that we see, much too often, happening in our own society. Too much evil in our own society, practiced, embraced, and defended by those who ought to clearly know better, but who have deceived themselves into thinking that there's nothing wrong with it.

But what does the main character from Idiocracy have to do with this question, that he should be mentioned as pone of the responses?
 
Bob Blaylock said:
What he said was exactly and importantly true.

It is something that we see, much too often, happening in our own society. Too much evil in our own society, practiced, embraced, and defended by those who ought to clearly know better, but who have deceived themselves into thinking that there's nothing wrong with it.

But what does the main character from Idiocracy have to do with this question, that he should be mentioned as pone of the responses?
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Where? Ref the underlined. I am missing something?
 
JANFU said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/21/w...s-comey-fbi-director-holocaust.html?ref=world

“In their minds, the murderers and accomplices of Germany, and Poland and Hungary, and so many, many other places didn’t do something evil. They convinced themselves it was the right thing to do, the thing they had to do. That’s what people do. And that should truly frighten us.”
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I don't see anything wrong with his statement above at all... it is accurate and in line with remember the past lest we repeat it.
 
Bob Blaylock said:
You may just have to watch the movie.
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That is what I thought you meant but said nah, no way. Must be something in the article and links.
But then again may have to.
Highly recommended?
 
Bodhisattva said:
I don't see anything wrong with his statement above at all... it is accurate and in line with remember the past lest we repeat it.
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I agree.
The Germans were welcomed by many when they invaded Holland. That did not last long.
 
JANFU said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/21/w...s-comey-fbi-director-holocaust.html?ref=world

Some links.

Denmark in the Holocaust: Bo Lidegaard's "Countrymen," Reviewed | The New Republic

http://www.internationalresearchcen...ernsOfCooperationCollaborationAndBetrayal.pdf
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We do not get to re-write history here because it may not sit well.

The harsh truth of the matter is there was plenty of antisemitism among the Polish people prior to and of course during the war. In that context, antisemitism among the people of Poland and Germany all predate the Nazis in any sense.

However, the conditions of WWII made for some awkward relations between all these groups of people. Once Poland fell losing some 66K (twice that injured) soldiers in the process there was little choice but to handle a new reality. German forces regarded the Polish people as just one notch above the Jews, and they both suffered greatly because of it.

It would be foolish to suggest no Polish people helped the occupying Germans in their effort to kill off as many Jews as possible, but it would be equally foolish to suggest there was some unwritten rule saying all polish people were helping the Germans. We also have to consider motivations here, for many Polish people they knew if they did not help the Germans they may face a fate similar as many Jewish people, homosexuals, and others faced. If for no other reason than they did not help the Germans in a way the Germans dictated.
 
OrphanSlug said:
We do not get to re-write history here because it may not sit well.

The harsh truth of the matter is there was plenty of antisemitism among the Polish people prior to and of course during the war. In that context, antisemitism among the people of Poland and Germany all predate the Nazis in any sense.

However, the conditions of WWII made for some awkward relations between all these groups of people. Once Poland fell losing some 66K (twice that injured) soldiers in the process there was little choice but to handle a new reality. German forces regarded the Polish people as just one notch above the Jews, and they both suffered greatly because of it.

It would be foolish to suggest no Polish people helped the occupying Germans in their effort to kill off as many Jews as possible, but it would be equally foolish to suggest there was some unwritten rule saying all polish people were helping the Germans. We also have to consider motivations here, for many Polish people they knew if they did not help the Germans they may face a fate similar as many Jewish people, homosexuals, and others faced. If for no other reason than they did not help the Germans in a way the Germans dictated.
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No one has stated that, and knowing a tad about history Poles, French, German risked their lives and their families lives as well to help Jews.
The directors points were missed by the Polish Govt, or overlooking a part of their history that they are not willing to acknowledge.
 
It wasn't just the Germans.
 
Obama should resign. ;)
 
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