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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It is tongue in cheek. If you'd like it spelled out: There are a lot of posters who wouldn't be able to justify police shootings without marijuana.

    It seems to be the first thing they'll run to when screaming that a cop is justified: "Omfg! This person had mari-yuana in they system! The horror. The audacity!"

    As if marijuana did anything other than make people lazy and laugh at Beavis and Butthead reruns.
    Hmm, haven't run across that argument justifying police shootings. Now, having pot in your system, in a state where it's entirely illegal does tell us the suspect is willing to break the law, and has. It also tells us the suspect's judgment is very likely impaired. Not to mention the suspect is usually a dealer, not just a casual user, something that will still make them a criminal even with legal recreational pot.

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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    And once again you fail to recognize all it takes is a federal judge to strike down any states vote. They have done it with abortion. They have done it with SSM, as somehow you think miraculously they will respect the vote of the citizens on marijuana.

    I got a broken t.v. console with turntable made in the sixties I would like to sell you.
    I'm sure you do, they go well with your broken argument. Those federal judges use precedent and established interpretations set by the SCOTUS. But in this case, you know, the thread topic, if the US Congress legalizes recreational pot federally, by established precedent, they have the power to do so. This could only be overturned by another act of congress.

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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    When a state votes to ban things that they don't have a right to ban....and the court steps in and overturns the ban...yes that absolutely is Freedom. There are many things that are not subject to a popular vote and they usually involve basic fundamental rights.
    Welll.........whooopie doooooo. Let's just put states rights to rest right now so the Federal government can initiate any agenda they see fit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    Let's drop the middle man who so often gets in the way of expanding the agenda of the current assholes in charge of the federal government.


    Way to go................................................ ..

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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    In honor of 4/20:
    Should marijuana be legalized nationwide?


    Might as well. A number of things have convinced me that the upside will far outweigh any downside.


    One being this: there's a certain guy I know. Bit of redneck. Likes his beer, smoked a lot of weed. BUT, he's always had a full time job and took care of his family and been functional and a decent human being.


    Until... he switched from weed to prescription pills to avoid getting caught in drug test and losing his job.


    In a couple years he's gone from functional to almost rock bottom. He's had trouble with the law (he never did before), nearly lost his job twice (lucky bugger that he didn't), and has nearly alienated his entire family due to his crappy behavior. I'm not even telling the half of it.

    He was way better off just smoking weed.

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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Hmm, haven't run across that argument justifying police shootings.
    Oh, you should look into it. The first thing when a police shooting happens is looking into the person's 'drug history' as if most of America wasn't hyped up on one or another type of drug. Xanax, percs, oxys, codeine, alcohol, etc. You name it and America is on it. Hell, I bet some of the disabled folks on this forum are pretty up and up on their drug use. However, when a police shooting occurs, there only seems to be an issue with marijuana. The demonization of it allows people to justify shootings. To deny it is absolute lunacy.

    Now, having pot in your system, in a state where it's entirely illegal does tell us the suspect is willing to break the law, and has.
    You can test positive for THC without smoking marijuana. So no.

    It also tells us the suspect's judgment is very likely impaired.
    You can test positive for THC months after you've used marijuana and while you're no longer impaired. So once again, no.

    Not to mention the suspect is usually a dealer, not just a casual user, something that will still make them a criminal even with legal recreational pot.
    I'm going to need some evidence for this.
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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Welll.........whooopie doooooo. Let's just put states rights to rest right now so the Federal government can initiate any agenda they see fit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1Let's drop the middle man who so often gets in the way of expanding the agenda of the current assholes in charge of the federal government.Way to go................................................ ..
    No. It helps it you have a basic understanding of how our government operates. Not every issue should be put to a popular vote. That is the fundamental reason why we have a Constitution. It helps if you understand that.

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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I'm sure you do, they go well with your broken argument. Those federal judges use precedent and established interpretations set by the SCOTUS. But in this case, you know, the thread topic, if the US Congress legalizes recreational pot federally, by established precedent, they have the power to do so. This could only be overturned by another act of congress.
    My argument is not broken. And your schpill that those federal judges only use precedence in interpretation makes me want to puke because too many times those federal judges use political ideology and not Constitutional law to base their rulings. In the past decade the number of rulings by federal judges on "feelings" over law is astounding.

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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Ex-pot smoker here. I fully support, unconditionally, the complete legalization of pot, present and retroactively.

    That said, if the day ever comes that weed is legalized and you're still bitching incessantly about pot, I will personally push for the life imprisonment of every man, woman and child who ever came into contact with marijuana. Because compared to people who don't have free elections, access to clean water, education, housing, electricity, and health care, I am so unbelievably sick of listening to your crap.
    Uhhhh... Ok...... I guess complaining about the major source of the drug war which costs our country billions upon billions of dollars, human beings freedom, and their lives is not a valid issue?
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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Yes. But as a compromise, I can live with letting individual states decide which drugs are legal and which ones aren't.
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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Welll.........whooopie doooooo. Let's just put states rights to rest right now so the Federal government can initiate any agenda they see fit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

    Let's drop the middle man who so often gets in the way of expanding the agenda of the current assholes in charge of the federal government.


    Way to go................................................ ..
    That's precisely what he wants. Liberals have no use for state and local governments unless they can use them for shelter when they're in trouble.

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