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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I don't give a damn what you do as long as you can take personal responsibility for it. If you can't make that commitment then to hell with you. Those carrying the tax load deserve better than that.
    I take personal responsibility, your broad brush stereotyping is not very illuminating.

    And, for the third time, Are you for banning tobacco and alcohol?
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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    No I don't.
    But everyone does it anyway so why not. We may as well make some tax dollars off of it. It would be an economy booster!

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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So we should ban marijuana because during time of use its intoxicating?
    The question was posted by you. I quote "Smoking pot "reduces your ability to contribute to society"? How so?"

    And here was my answer: Do you agree or not with my answer? After that I will gladly answer your question about banning Marijuana.

    "Lets ask the question another way. Does alcohol cause auto accidents? Of course the answer is yes. So in that case alcohol surly is not contributing to society. The same could be said for Pot and all the other drugs for that matter. I'm not saying we should ban alcohol, but in the true sense alcohol and pot does reduce one's ability to contribute. I would not call alcohol related deaths contribute to anything except increasing the death rate."
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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    In honor of 4/20:
    Should marijuana be legalized nationwide?
    It should be a state issue period. The federal government has no proper power to tell say the citizens of Idaho if they can grow and smoke weed. If Ohio bans it, the federal government should not have anything to do with that decision
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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    The question was posted by you. I quote "Smoking pot "reduces your ability to contribute to society"? How so?"

    And here was my answer: Do you agree or not with my answer? After that I will gladly answer your question about banning Marijuana.

    "Lets ask the question another way. Does alcohol cause auto accidents? Of course the answer is yes. So in that case alcohol surly is not contributing to society. The same could be said for Pot and all the other drugs for that matter. I'm not saying we should ban alcohol, but in the true sense alcohol and pot does reduce one's ability to contribute. I would not call alcohol related deaths contribute to anything except increasing the death rate."
    Alcohol abuse can cause car accidents, drunk driving can cause auto accidents. Me having 4 beers while watching baseball on tv does not reduce my ability to contribute to society. Me vaping some marijuana before bed while watching baseball on tv does not reduce my ability to contribute to society.
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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    I take personal responsibility, your broad brush stereotyping is not very illuminating.

    And, for the third time, Are you for banning tobacco and alcohol?
    So you might take personal responsibility in your engaging in drugs, so what? There are too many in our society who can't even take responsibility for getting pregnant even though birth control is just blocks away to obtain for free. Nor men take responsibility for the children they father tying up our courts with a plethora of cases on the taxpayers's dime just trying to squeeze out any funds from these bastards deserving their children. Many of these kids were created under the influence where good judgment went out the window under the influence of alcohol and drugs.

    Sooooooo, if you want to see drugs legalized, then pony up and agree to acknowledge personal responsibility is paramount for that happening. If not, stick a sock in it.

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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Alcohol abuse can cause car accidents, drunk driving can cause auto accidents. Me having 4 beers while watching baseball on tv does not reduce my ability to contribute to society. Me vaping some marijuana before bed while watching baseball on tv does not reduce my ability to contribute to society.
    But it does not enhance your ability to contribute. Meaning once a person begins to drink or smoke pot your ability diminishes and the more you drink or smoke is when the accident happens and death can happen. This is a fact that once you begin use your ability decreases.

    Having said that, we could ban cars, alcohol, pot etc etc but as a society we accept the fact that cars kill people, as does alcohol and pot. But as a society we want our cars and our alcohol and our pot and are willing to live with the consequences.

    As for banning pot it should be up to the states.
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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Yes! ......

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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    YOU displayed the butthurt, just reminding you of your own behavior.
    Lmao, making it up as you go? Par for the course.

    More nonsense and flat out ignorance. One of us has actually studied the affects of THC on the brain and the other is you. And no, tolerance dictates how high you feel, NOT how high or impaired you actually are. Same with alcohol. Yes, a urine test would still show positive, but a blood test would not show the same levels of THC. You don't need to go on, though I'm positive you will anyway. What you need is an education. Start here:
    Good grief, you studied the effects of THC? Did you also make it as you went? Here, let's let a laboratory actually discuss this:

    Drug Testing Myths Busted | Employee Drug Screening Services

    Myth 18: New marijuana use can be detected by comparing THC levels in consecutive samples.

    Truth:

    New marijuana use cannot be detected using only the THC level, as the drug concentration relative to the amount of water in consecutive samples may be very different. The only way to determine new use in consecutive samples is to compare THC/Creatinine ratios. If the ratio has gone up in the second specimen then new use has likely occurred. TOP
    Marijuana Drug Test Detection Times | California NORML

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    However, what definitely PROVES me right is your own source man:

    How Will Police Regulate Stoned Driving? | Popular Science

    "The properties of marijuana are not going to liken themselves very much to a 'breathalyzer' type test," says Dr. Christina Hantsch, a toxicologist working within the Loyola University Health System. "I think it's going to have to be a different bodily fluid if you're looking for more immediate testing."
    Why? For one, THC is fat-soluble, which means it can be absorbed by the body's fat cells and remain within the metabolism for extended periods of time. For heavy users, THC can remain within the body for days, making it difficult to connect the presence of THC in a person's bloodstream with that person't current state of impairment. For chronic users the picture is even murkier. Regular marijuana users who stop using cannabis can still have detectable amounts of THC in the bloodstream even 30 days after they cease using. There are even documented cases of former chronic users that haven't had a dose of cannabis in years testing positive for THC while undergoing rapid weight loss, Hantsch says. THC is really good at tucking itself away in the body's fat cells, and it can remain there for a really long time.
    AGAIN, what that all means is the exact opposite of this:

    Yes, we can tell if you're currently stoned medically.
    It also tells us the suspect's judgment is very likely impaired.
    And even this:

    Now, having pot in your system, in a state where it's entirely illegal does tell us the suspect is willing to break the law, and has.
    Do you want to proceed? Or do you want to throw out more popular science magazines? So far what we have is that drug tests, at best can detect THC levels in a person's system. They can't detect how high someone is, that is something you made up. Your OWN SOURCE even acknowledges that it can be detected LONG AFTER the person has stopped using. Here, let's do a simple test on just how absurd your understanding of this subject is:

    If person X smokes weed for 6 months, quits for a week and then tests positive, are they still stoned? Take your time answering.

    No, I didn't make any claim, I made a general observation to counter YOUR general observation. Play with the words all you like, it's not working for you here.
    Not to mention the suspect is usually a dealer, not just a casual user, something that will still make them a criminal even with legal recreational pot.
    Um yes, you did.

    Lol.. you did make a claim. Now I'm asking you to back it up.
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    Re: Should Marijuana Be Legalized Nationwide?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    But it does not enhance your ability to contribute. Meaning once a person begins to drink or smoke pot your ability diminishes and the more you drink or smoke is when the accident happens and death can happen. This is a fact that once you begin use your ability decreases.
    Nor was it reduced. I dont plan on doing anything during that time, nor am I, I am literally going to sit my ass on a chair consume 4 beers or consume some marijuana, while staring a a television set showing baseball. Then I am going to go to sleep. Wake up feeling fine, rested, and go to work. Nowhere in there was my ability to contribute to society reduced. The only thing that was effected was my enjoyment.

    Having said that, we could ban cars, alcohol, pot etc etc but as a society we accept the fact that cars kill people, as does alcohol and pot. But as a society we want our cars and our alcohol and our pot and are willing to live with the consequences.
    We could ban all of those. Is it right that it is banned?

    As for banning pot it should be up to the states.
    Ok. Are you in favor of legalization in your state? Or is it already legalized and do you agree with the move or not?
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