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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Pretty much, especially scorpions, **** scorpions
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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    It bothers me immensely. Of course I have to weigh that against the hypocrisy of me not being a vegetarian, knowing how the animals are treated; that all need to be reformed. But yeah, such as poaching, whaling and other such barbarism should be met with instant death. Penalties for the abuse of domestic pets should be similarly harsh. The sickass shitbags who torture animals for fun should likewise be tortured beyond their limits. I think at that point, you've pretty much relinquished any rights you might otherwise have taken for granted. Like that guy who tied his dog to a tree and set it on fire. Had it been my call, he would have met with a horrific fate.
    When I hear of dog fighting, all I can think of is to have those who run these events, or even make bets, have their hands tied behind their backs and having them go one on one with a vicious pitbull. Don't even get me started on those who just throw small dogs in the cages for entertainment.
    We don't punish animal abuse severely enough. Dogs running the streets with their litters, dogs being left in cars, tight down on small chains and often without water or shelter. Animals being kicked and stomped on, cows basically suffocating in their own filth, chickens raised in conditions that are barbaric. I better stop, the day has just begun.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Ehhh. I suppose context matters. Even in the context of someone deliberately inflicting harm on an animal, it still depends on context.

    I eat a lot of chicken, pork, and beef; I don't particularly care if the animal killed for my meal suffered beforehand, as we've already reached the threshold of death, which is the worst harm you can inflict on a living creature.

    You're not asking about legality, so does the thought of someone like abusing their pet dog or neglecting them bother me? Okay, yeah, it bothers me. Do I think there is any basis for any kind of law restricting such behavior? No, I do not - their animal is their property.

    The basis for law and government is rights - human rights. When one is damaging someone else's property, then the law has a role to play.
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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    There are a great number of animals who show lasting emotional trauma. Even rodents and birds. It's not as rare in the animal kingdom as many humans like to believe.

    If you've ever worked with rescue animals (I have -- my cat happens to be one), it is very clear that they have memories and experience emotional suffering, despite the fact that most domestic animals don't rank very high in the order of animal intelligence.
    Absolutely. One of my rescues, a rather small dog, is to this day deathly afraid of cats, because she had to defend herself after being kicked out of her home by some less than human beings.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Ehhh. I suppose context matters. Even in the context of someone deliberately inflicting harm on an animal, it still depends on context.

    I eat a lot of chicken, pork, and beef; I don't particularly care if the animal killed for my meal suffered beforehand, as we've already reached the threshold of death, which is the worst harm you can inflict on a living creature.

    You're not asking about legality, so does the thought of someone like abusing their pet dog or neglecting them bother me? Okay, sure, it bothers me. Do I think there is any basis for any kind of law restricting such behavior? No, I do not - their animal is their property.
    properties have no feelings ,they cant breathe either
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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan5 View Post
    My grandmother used to catch cats in traps and pitchfork them with the garden tiller through the holes of the trap. Possums + racoons too. That said, I do feel bad for animals. I do think there's too many cats though and that more of them need to be killed because they're killing off all the native bird species and it's a disaster and cats really are out of control.
    Had your grandmother made sure more of the cats were spayed and neutered, she wouldn't have had to trap and kill them.
    I will never understand why people blame animals. Spay, neuter. Start with one. Yes, it does make a huge difference.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    properties have no feelings ,they cant breathe either
    That's not true; dogs breathe and have some emotions. They are still property.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    That's not true; dogs breathe and have some emotions. They are still property.
    so you can kill your dog if you want ?
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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    Ehhh. I suppose context matters. Even in the context of someone deliberately inflicting harm on an animal, it still depends on context.

    I eat a lot of chicken, pork, and beef; I don't particularly care if the animal killed for my meal suffered beforehand, as we've already reached the threshold of death, which is the worst harm you can inflict on a living creature.

    You're not asking about legality, so does the thought of someone like abusing their pet dog or neglecting them bother me? Okay, sure, it bothers me. Do I think there is any basis for any kind of law restricting such behavior? No, I do not - their animal is their property.
    Yeah, it bothers you so much you don't think anything should actually be done about it. Besides, you've already said that animal suffering is irrelevant to you. No need now to manufacture some sort of "compassion". Do I respect your stated opinions? Not really. There are, thankfully, very few people so indifferent to animal cruelty that they actually believe it should be legal.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    so you can kill your dog if you want ?
    People literally do that all the time. You've never heard of animals being put down?

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