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  • Sometimes but not always.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    I should make it very clear that I really don't condone violence of any sort, but justice, or call it just punishment, should be discussed by those in authority.
    Those are generally the very people with the least clue, being consumed by self-interest.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    On behalf of my pet scorpion, **** you.
    I hope "pet" scorpion means you fight it against other scorpions to the death, thats the type of animal cruelty I can really get behind

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I know it's illogical, because in the wild animals torture and eat each other,
    The way I see it is, we know better - they don't. (I'm not saying I am against eating animals, I am not at all but we should be raising and slaughtering them as humanely as possible)

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Words cannot express how upset I get even reading stories about what people have done to helpless animals. It hits me viscerally. I'm the one who instantly flips the channel when images of tortured animals suddenly appear on the screen. I live in a rural county, and newspaper photos of emaciated horses left to starve and die of thirst make me literally break into tears.

    I know it's illogical, because in the wild animals torture and eat each other, but when it comes to domesticated pets being abused for sport, or game animals suffering with multiple arrows just because some idiot wanted target practice, I just get crazy. I simply can't allow myself to dwell on this kind of evil because it eats me up inside.
    I don't think it's illogical.

    Nature is non-sentient. Wild animals having a rough time is nobody's fault. No one intentionally decided to make that animal suffer. Nature is just unforgiving at times. Bad seasons happen. Body parts fail. Battles are lost. That's life - that's nature.

    Those animals that live with and around humans who suffer have come to that fate through intent. A human has decided to torment them, or alternatively they've intentionally decided not to honor their promise to provide for an animal who can't provide for itself.

    I think that is why it is so much more horrible. Nature has no intent. People do.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    I agree unreservedly. Especially regarding the dog fighting scum. Were there justice in this world, they'd have their eyes gouged out, before being secured to a concrete floor and having their limbs smashed to pulp with sledge hammers, then left to die from their injuries.
    Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel. Lol.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Lol, it totally sounds like you'd resent your poor dog for his ear infection or want a medal for actually buying him something he needs.
    No, I'm doing no such thing, just pointing out why you're wrong in your insinuations, and you're getting more and more off-base with them.

    I'd easily spend whatever necessary for my dogs without a second thought what someone who believes animal cruelty should be legal thinks.
    You'd spend thousands on a pet "without a second thought?" Yeah, okay.

    Well, assuming that was true, it's still your money, so that's your business. Maybe you're one of the aforementioned folks for whom thousands of dollars is peanuts. For most folks, it isn't.
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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    No, I'm doing no such thing, just pointing out why you're wrong in your insinuations.
    Ok. Fair enough.

    You'd spend thousands on a pet "without a second thought?" Yeah, okay. Well, assuming that was true, it's still your money, so that's your business. Maybe you're one of the aforementioned folks for whom thousands of dollars is peanuts.
    It's true, in fact in the case of one of my dogs that I no longer have, her final bill between the emergency vet and our regular vet was right at about $1000 and I would have paid more if it could have saved her. It's true though, that while a couple thousand is definitely not peanuts to me, I'm not financially strapped either.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    No, I'm doing no such thing, just pointing out why you're wrong in your insinuations, and you're getting more and more off-base with them.



    You'd spend thousands on a pet "without a second thought?" Yeah, okay.

    Well, assuming that was true, it's still your money, so that's your business. Maybe you're one of the aforementioned folks for whom thousands of dollars is peanuts. For most folks, it isn't.
    Some of us simply care about our pets and recognize their well-being as valid, that's all.

    I easily spent thousands on my last cat's care, back when that was a significant little slice of my yearly income. I have many friends who've done similar.

    It is not weird to have compassion for other creatures and feel responsible for maximizing their happiness when we have taken them into our homes to join our families. It's common, actually. Hard to fathom, I know.
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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    No, I'm doing no such thing, just pointing out why you're wrong in your insinuations, and you're getting more and more off-base with them.



    You'd spend thousands on a pet "without a second thought?" Yeah, okay.

    Well, assuming that was true, it's still your money, so that's your business. Maybe you're one of the aforementioned folks for whom thousands of dollars is peanuts. For most folks, it isn't.
    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Ok. Fair enough.



    It's true, in fact in the case of one of my dogs that I no longer have, her final bill between the emergency vet and our regular vet was right at about $1000 and I would have paid more if it could have saved her. It's true though, that while a couple thousand is definitely not peanuts to me, I'm not financially strapped either.
    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Some of us simply care about our pets and recognize their well-being as valid, that's all.

    I easily spent thousands on my last cat's care, back when that was a significant little slice of my yearly income. I have many friends who've done similar.

    It is not weird to have compassion for other creatures and feel responsible for maximizing their happiness when we have taken them into our homes to join our families. It's common, actually. Hard to fathom, I know.
    Yeesh. And this is why I don't have pets.

    It sounds like having kids, but with less pay off in the end.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Yeesh. And this is why I don't have pets.

    It sounds like having kids, but with less pay off in the end.
    Hey, my cat can entertain herself for 12 hours and she'll never try to get me to buy her a car. I get lots of pay-off. Pets are just pure enjoyment, except when they're sick. They don't have any drama. They just exist, and adore you existing with them.

    I'd say more like a kinda dim friend than a kid. And who doesn't like more friends?

    And like my pets, I have spent quite a fair bit of money on my human friends and loved ones as well. That's what it's for, far as I'm concerned.

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