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  • Yes, a little bit.

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  • Sometimes but not always.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    When one important factor is missing, meaning if citizens are not behaving responsibly, then yes, goverment must intervene. I am all for the right to live and let live, but some should have that right revoked when it becomes clear that the person is interfering negatively with the lives and liberties of other beings.
    You're not going to suddenly convince him that compassion for animals is of any value. He sees his dogs as no different than a toaster.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Well, I don't know you but I would not be optimistic about the quality of life any dogs have when animal suffering is of no concern to their caretaker.
    My dogs are my property - they do not have rights. Both of those are assertions of fact. As is the fact that I enjoy their company and treat them well. As is the fact that I respect other people's property. Your personal attacks and insinuations are uncalled for.

    Anyway, time to get up so I can give my dog her medication. Totally blows your mind that I would actually buy, for my dog, meds to make her feel better, doesn't it?
    Why would that blow my mind considering we take them to the vet and I have administered medication to them?

    The only thing that blows my mind regarding vet care is how much some people are willing to spend on extremely sick pets; it's their money their business, I suppose, but the idea of spending thousands on a pet (unless you're Mr. Moneybags and thousands of dollars is trivial to you) is completely alien to me. But my dog had an ear infection and it was clearly bothering him so we certainly got drops and we put them in his ear every night. Those drops weren't cheap. But he feels better, so cool, I'm okay with the expense.

    Personally, I think if you're going to spend thousands of dollars for something's well-being, donating it to charity that provides for other human beings - a food bank, a free clinic - would be more appropriate. But like I said, personal liberty, your property, etc.
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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    My dogs are my property - they do not have rights. Both of those are assertions of fact. As is the fact that I enjoy their company and treat them well. As is the fact that I respect other people's property. Your personal attacks and insinuations are uncalled for.



    Why would that blow my mind considering we take them to the vet and I have administered medication to them?

    The only thing that blows my mind regarding vet care is how much some people are willing to spend on extremely sick pets; it's their money their business, I suppose, but the idea of spending thousands on a pet (unless you're Mr. Moneybags and thousands of dollars is trivial to you) is completely alien to me. But my dog had an ear infection and it was clearly bothering him so we certainly got drops and we put them in his ear every night. Those drops weren't cheap. But he feels better, so cool, I'm okay with the expense.

    Personally, I think if you're going to spend thousands of dollars for something's well-being, donating it to charity that provides for other human beings - a food bank, a free clinic - would be more appropriate. But like I said, personal liberty, your property, etc.
    Pets, such as a dog, bring an unlimited and pure supply of love to the family that it is a part of. It doesn't matter how bad your day was or what is going on in your life your pet is always there for you in a positive way, it's a very difficult thing to find in life. The reason people spend thousands of dollars on their pet when it is sick or in need of major medical care is because they love their pet just like they do any member of their family and see the value of continuing its life for everybody involved including the pet. I grew up with dogs and my parents still have the same dog that has been a part of my life since before middle school. He is a part of our family, he is in family photos, he is called by his name, he is not just property to us. Donating him to charity would be like my parents donating me to charity, it wouldn't happen, they'd find a way to help him even in his most daunting hour. Anyway that's just a personal example.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    In many cases, most in fact the group you call "mythical" can be observed right here at DP in action, nothing "mythical" about that. And yes they do say all sorts of wacky things and get judgemental. Again nothing "mythical" about that either.
    So you got trolled on the internet. Gratz. Let's see these wack-jobs run that crazy **** in real life. They don't. I don't see them anywhere.

    You're tilting at windmills.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So you got trolled on the internet. Gratz. Let's see these wack-jobs run that crazy **** in real life. They don't. I don't see them anywhere.

    You're tilting at windmills.
    We don't see them in real life huh? How about members of PETA? I mean just because you don't want to see or interact with them does not mean anyone trolled or that I am chasing windmills.
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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    We don't see them in real life huh? How about members of PETA? I mean just because you don't want to see or interact with them does not mean anyone trolled or that I am chasing windmills.
    You mean those hot naked chicks with some tagline about fur?

    Even I've given up griping about PETA and I used to do it all the time. It's trite. Find something else to be a victim of.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You mean those hot naked chicks with some tagline about fur?

    Even I've given up griping about PETA and I used to do it all the time. It's trite. Find something else to be a victim of.
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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by JayDubya View Post
    My dogs are my property - they do not have rights. Both of those are assertions of fact. As is the fact that I enjoy their company and treat them well. As is the fact that I respect other people's property. Your personal attacks and insinuations are uncalled for.



    Why would that blow my mind considering we take them to the vet and I have administered medication to them?

    The only thing that blows my mind regarding vet care is how much some people are willing to spend on extremely sick pets; it's their money their business, I suppose, but the idea of spending thousands on a pet (unless you're Mr. Moneybags and thousands of dollars is trivial to you) is completely alien to me. But my dog had an ear infection and it was clearly bothering him so we certainly got drops and we put them in his ear every night. Those drops weren't cheap. But he feels better, so cool, I'm okay with the expense.

    Personally, I think if you're going to spend thousands of dollars for something's well-being, donating it to charity that provides for other human beings - a food bank, a free clinic - would be more appropriate. But like I said, personal liberty, your property, etc.
    Lol, it totally sounds like you'd resent your poor dog for his ear infection or want a medal for actually buying him something he needs. Dogs aren't cheap and if you resent the cost of their care, nobody's making you have them. Think of all the money you could save. I really don't get why you have them anyway viewing them as worthy of..well...basically nothing. What do you get out of it? I'd easily spend whatever necessary for my dogs without a second thought what someone who believes animal cruelty should be legal thinks.
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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovebug View Post
    When I hear of dog fighting, all I can think of is to have those who run these events, or even make bets, have their hands tied behind their backs and having them go one on one with a vicious pitbull. Don't even get me started on those who just throw small dogs in the cages for entertainment.
    We don't punish animal abuse severely enough. Dogs running the streets with their litters, dogs being left in cars, tight down on small chains and often without water or shelter. Animals being kicked and stomped on, cows basically suffocating in their own filth, chickens raised in conditions that are barbaric. I better stop, the day has just begun.
    I agree unreservedly. Especially regarding the dog fighting scum. Were there justice in this world, they'd have their eyes gouged out, before being secured to a concrete floor and having their limbs smashed to pulp with sledge hammers, then left to die from their injuries.

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    Re: Does the Thought of Animals Suffering Bother You?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    I agree unreservedly. Especially regarding the dog fighting scum. Were there justice in this world, they'd have their eyes gouged out, before being secured to a concrete floor and having their limbs smashed to pulp with sledge hammers, then left to die from their injuries.
    I should make it very clear that I really don't condone violence of any sort, but justice, or call it just punishment, should be discussed by those in authority.

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