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    Re: Is Saudi Arabia a reliable U.S. ally in the Middle East?

    To expand on my earlier sentiment, even if you get rid of every single other reason to support renewable and green energy, transitioning away from oil would allow us to no longer do business with a miserable place like Saudi Arabia. If their oil wasn't necessary anymore, then we could strip them of whatever power they have in the world. That would be pretty great.
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    Re: Is Saudi Arabia a reliable U.S. ally in the Middle East?

    Neither trustworthy nor admirable, but fairly reliable when their interests dovetail with those of the US.

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    Re: Is Saudi Arabia a reliable U.S. ally in the Middle East?

    Considering one of the reasons the Saudi's are deliberately tanking oil prices is probably to damage the U.S. shale oil industry...horrible allies.


    The U.S. government over the decades has been incredibly naive.

    First they allied with Iran - that turned out to be a mess.

    Then they allied with Israel and Saudi Arabia. The former has given America nothing but grief since the Cold War and cost them billions. And the latter has caused them huge indirect grief and again cost them billions.

    Then they were allied to Egypt...what good has that done America except cost her many billions more (the question is rhetorical)?

    Then for a while there was Iraq as an ally. That was a disaster.

    This neocon drivel that it is in America's best interests to directly involve herself in the Middle East is absolute nonsense. It has cost America trillions, thousands of lives and the region is more unstable and less pro-American then ever before.

    America's foreign policy should be much like China's (outside of her historical borders' anyway) - let other countries fix their own problems and concentrate on building up your economy.

    Economics and common sense builds/maintains powerful countries, not wreckless spending and bravado.
    Unfortunately, the latter two is all Neocons seem to know.
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    Re: Is Saudi Arabia a reliable U.S. ally in the Middle East?

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Considering one of the reasons the Saudi's are deliberately tanking oil prices is probably to damage the U.S. shale oil industry...horrible allies.


    The U.S. government over the decades has been incredibly naive.

    First they allied with Iran - that turned out to be a mess.

    Then they allied with Israel and Saudi Arabia. The former has given America nothing but grief since the Cold War and cost them billions. And the latter has caused them huge indirect grief and again cost them billions.

    Then they were allied to Egypt...what good has that done America except cost her many billions more (the question is rhetorical)?

    Then for a while there was Iraq as an ally. That was a disaster.

    This neocon drivel that it is in America's best interests to directly involve herself in the Middle East is absolute nonsense. It has cost America trillions, thousands of lives and the region is more unstable and less pro-American then ever before.

    America's foreign policy should be much like China's (outside of her historical borders' anyway) - let other countries fix their own problems and concentrate on building up your economy.

    Economics and common sense builds/maintains powerful countries, not wreckless spending and bravado.
    Unfortunately, the latter two is all Neocons seem to know.
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    Re: Is Saudi Arabia a reliable U.S. ally in the Middle East?

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    Thanks...but as you probably know, much of what I said is more or less what Ron Paul has been saying for decades.
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    Re: Is Saudi Arabia a reliable U.S. ally in the Middle East?

    No, but no US government is going to worry about that at all. As long as they keep selling the US the oil it wants and buys the weapons US companies keep selling to Saudi Arabia, no US government is going to be too critical towards a country with a very spotty record on human rights and a diabolical record when it comes to the rights of women.

    But as said, the US is making money of them, the Saudi's keep pumping money into the US economy and the thirst for oil is being quenched by Saudi oil, the US government is not going to make any waves towards Saudi Arabia.

    And no, besides the human rights abuses, women's right abuses, the Saudi government supports Salafist Jihadi's and from Saudi Arabia a lot of money goes to organizations that support and commit terrorism. With their support for Wahabbism and Salafism, they are the main sources for money towards political islamism which is one of the biggest reasons for terror in the world IMHO.

    So no, not a good or reliable partner.
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    Re: Is Saudi Arabia a reliable U.S. ally in the Middle East?

    As a couple people have said, pretty reliable when our military regional interest align, but that's about it. They're not swell people otherwise.
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    Re: Is Saudi Arabia a reliable U.S. ally in the Middle East?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    As such, is Saudi Arabia a reliable U.S. ally in the Middle East?
    Let me put it to you this way...


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    Re: Is Saudi Arabia a reliable U.S. ally in the Middle East?

    Yes, and increasingly so as the royal family will increasingly being dependent on the USA to remain in power.

    The real question is do we want Saudi Arabia to remain our ally, or does doing so lock us into fighting their battles so they can continue to consume the vast wealth of their country for their huge royal family?

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    Re: Is Saudi Arabia a reliable U.S. ally in the Middle East?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    According to Sen. Bob Graham, Saudi Arabia played a role in the 9/11 terror attacks. Not only that but the Saudis have been bitter about the reluctance of the United States to use military force to depose Assad in Syria. As such, is Saudi Arabia a reliable U.S. ally in the Middle East?

    They're a horrific theocracy, I wouldn't rely on them in the least. They gots lots of oil, so we'll be friendly with them so long s it plays to our advantage. Which is why the real question should be to SA as to whether or not WE are a reliable ally. So long as you give us what we want, yes. But we ain't above ****ing some **** up if we don't get our way.
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