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Thread: A Modest Proposal: Barack Obama Should Be Hillary Clinton's Running Mate

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    Re: A Modest Proposal: Barack Obama Should Be Hillary Clinton's Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    Does it also state the the Pres and VP cannot be from the same state as well?
    No but it states that the electors (electoral college) cannot choose both president and vice president from the same state they (the electors) inhabit.

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    Re: A Modest Proposal: Barack Obama Should Be Hillary Clinton's Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    No but it states that the electors (electoral college) cannot choose both president and vice president from the same state they (the electors) inhabit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: A Modest Proposal: Barack Obama Should Be Hillary Clinton's Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    And the lawyers speak, not, and certainly not I. Posted as it would make for a lively debate.
    I am far from knowledgeable on your Constitution.
    Same reason i had asked another member if the Constitution clearly states the separation of Church and State.
    And lo and behold it does not for some, but another interesting discussion?????
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    There is no wording in the US Constitution regarding separation of church and state. The first amendment bans the government from enacting an official state religion, meaning that we will not become a clerical state. Many on the left misinterpret that as a ban on religion in government or government buildings. It does not.

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    Re: A Modest Proposal: Barack Obama Should Be Hillary Clinton's Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Theoretically, does that preclude an ex-President from occupying any role that falls in the line of succession?
    Probably, however I would ask a constitutional lawyer on that one.

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    Re: A Modest Proposal: Barack Obama Should Be Hillary Clinton's Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm no US constitutional scholar, like the President supposedly is, but it's my understanding that he has been elected to two terms as President and therefore he cannot stand for election to any position that may lead to a third term as President.

    I'll stand by to be corrected.
    technically the president cant hold any official positions after he leaves the white house.
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    Re: A Modest Proposal: Barack Obama Should Be Hillary Clinton's Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    There is no wording in the US Constitution regarding separation of church and state. The first amendment bans the government from enacting an official state religion, meaning that we will not become a clerical state. Many on the left misinterpret that as a ban on religion in government or government buildings. It does not.
    That is what i thought as well.
    Again, thank you for the insight.
    Your constitution can be a tad confusing for us up here. Meaning me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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    Re: A Modest Proposal: Barack Obama Should Be Hillary Clinton's Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm no US constitutional scholar, like the President supposedly is, but it's my understanding that he has been elected to two terms as President and therefore he cannot stand for election to any position that may lead to a third term as President.

    I'll stand by to be corrected.
    That would be the Twenty-Second Amendment:

    Section. 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

    Section. 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.

    It seems to apply only to one being elected directly to the position of President. I imagine there could be some fights in the courts over it if it arose, but by my reading, it doesn't seem to prevent one from being elected or appointed to some other position that puts him in line to the Presidency, such as Vice President or Speaker of the House.

    I do think that Clinton/Obama ticket would be very polarizing. I think there's a very strong correlation between those of us who are fed up with the incompetence, bad judgement, hubris, and outright corruption that Obama has represented; and those who think that Hillary Clinton would just be more of the same. It's generally a good practice among nominated Presidential candidates to pick a running mate that has strengths to cover for the weaknesses of the main candidate. Mr. Obama would only aggravate and underscore Mrs. Clinton's weaknesses.


    Before any Americans answer, John, do you think you can name the one President of the United States who achieved this position without being elected to it, or to any other position close in line to the Presidency? As far as I know, it happened only once.
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    Re: A Modest Proposal: Barack Obama Should Be Hillary Clinton's Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    That would be the Twenty-Second Amendment:

    Section. 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.

    Section. 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.

    It seems to apply only to one being elected directly to the position of President. I imagine there could be some fights in the courts over it if it arose, but by my reading, it doesn't seem to prevent one from being elected or appointed to some other position that puts him in line to the Presidency, such as Vice President or Speaker of the House.

    I do think that Clinton/Obama ticket would be very polarizing. I think there's a very strong correlation between those of us who are fed up with the incompetence, bad judgement, hubris, and outright corruption that Obama has represented; and those who think that Hillary Clinton would just be more of the same. It's generally a good practice among nominated Presidential candidates to pick a running mate that has strengths to cover for the weaknesses of the main candidate. Mr. Obama would only aggravate and underscore Mrs. Clinton's weaknesses.


    Before any Americans answer, John, do you think you can name the one President of the United States who achieved this position without being elected to it, or to any other position close in line to the Presidency? As far as I know, it happened only once.
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    Re: A Modest Proposal: Barack Obama Should Be Hillary Clinton's Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    That is what i thought as well.
    Again, thank you for the insight.
    Your constitution can be a tad confusing for us up here. Meaning me.
    You are very welcome. Most who misinterpret it here, do not actually read it.

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    Re: A Modest Proposal: Barack Obama Should Be Hillary Clinton's Running Mate

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    You are very welcome. Most who misinterpret it here, do not actually read it.
    Well with many SCOTUS rulings on it, the territory can be rocky at times.
    I have read portions, and as time permits will read more.
    So be prepared for more questions and I appreciate the help.
    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The damage to the black community from all this will be devastating.
    Not only on public perception and reputation, but cops simply won't want to police these neighborhoods anymore.
    The shooter was later found to be white.

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