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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Would it be cruel to kill a dog's unborn puppies?
    I don't see the relevance.

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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    This issue is very important to me, and I would like to hear others opinions. I think this is a very important issue that doesn't get the attention that it deserves.
    The more we learn about the cognitive abilities of animals, their sense of fear and self-awareness, the more heinous is our actions which ignore those creatures and their suffering.

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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Farmers usually give animals access to all I have said, most of them, factory farms, where the majority of meat comes from, most of the animals are horribly bred, mutated, inbred.. It would honestly be more ethical to put them all down, and eliminating factory farming would actually increase the profit farmers would make.
    And make the price of meat ridicules.

    So why don't we just eat them and everyone is happy... except the cow of course.
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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Several questions:
    1.)Can I kill my chicken/cow/etc? If so how? And how do I ensure its not cruel?
    2.)Are zoos okay?
    3.)Separating animals, does that mean I can have a dog or not? After all many dog (meaning my families, 14 year old lab) was separated from her mother at a very young age?
    4.)I agree many factory farms are extremely ****ed up, and extremely disturbing, but is there actually a realistic solution to this?
    Of course you can, just make sure it's done ethically, you can look into the methods yourself.
    Zoos, unfortunately, in today's world, are a necessity, and many don't practice cruelty.
    The difference is, in factory farms, they are separated to be slaughtered, etc..
    The realistic solution? More enforcement and protection for animals.

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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I don't see the relevance.
    Just trying to figure out what you consider cruelty toward animals.


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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Would it be cruel to kill a dog's unborn puppies?
    Probably not. THe unborn puppies are not self-aware, and the dog itself probably has no idea that canine fetuses were inside it.

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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    What are they going to do to you?
    The only animal that I have had a problem with was a neighbor's (mistreated) large male dog - it escaped its chain and bit my dog through his pen fence. I captured the dog (it was not aggressive to me), tied it up and gave animal control a call - they took the dog after they observed its habitat, lack of tags and general poor health. Stray cows are generally not a problem if they stay off of the roadways - I can usually identify their source (by the ear tags) and have the phone numbers of the local ranchers which are generally quick to get them back into their pasture and repair the fencing.
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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Then we'll get the insect rights movement. Have you ever tried breeding insects, it's a lot harder than you'd think. And while they contain more protein and nutrients than red meat, I'm yet to see anything that shows it's actually cheaper on a per kilo scale.
    In reference, I'd like you to know that breeding insects on an industrial scale is actually possible, if properly supported, the price would be adjusted accordingly. (I think?)

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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Just trying to figure out what you consider cruelty toward animals.
    I'd refer to calamity's post.

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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Would "freedom from cruelty" include not eating them? No one hunts cow...
    To be fair, hunting's not necessary. They move too slow.
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