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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    i am sure he meant.."no to be treated cruelly" by the power of law.

    no law grants rights.... in america.
    In theory. On paper.
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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    In theory. On paper.
    on paper what?

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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    This issue is very important to me, and I would like to hear others opinions. I think this is a very important issue that doesn't get the attention that it deserves.
    i'm with you in spirit..legally that isn't going to happen.

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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    This issue is very important to me, and I would like to hear others opinions. I think this is a very important issue that doesn't get the attention that it deserves.
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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    No, animals should not have rights in the same way we do, but there should be anti cruelty laws and penalties should be more severe than they are. I am against things like gestation crates, forced feeding (for foie gras), battery cages etc. However, I do eat meat and dairy and I believe it is our natural diet. If you choose to be vegan, that is your prerogative but please do not deny it's not natural and don't come down on people for eating meat.

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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    This issue is very important to me, and I would like to hear others opinions. I think this is a very important issue that doesn't get the attention that it deserves.



    This issue is very important to me as well, especially the protection of wolves, which certain states are once again trying to exterminate.
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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Because there is, or was, the potential to understand rights. Animals are dumb, there's no point giving them rights.


    Do you have any animals? They are not as dumb as you think.
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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    Do you have any animals? They are not as dumb as you think.
    I have two lizards, a snake, 5 frogs, a scorpion, a bunch of fish and a turtle. They're dumb. I tried explaining the concept of rights to one of my my girlfriends beagles. It went and sniffed the butt of her other beagle. I tried to get one of the stray cats I've befriended to read On Liberty by John Stuart Mill, it meowed at me. Sure, some animals can display complex emotions, but none are up to understanding the concept of rights.
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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    I have two lizards, a snake, 5 frogs, a scorpion, a bunch of fish and a turtle. They're dumb. I tried explaining the concept of rights to one of my my girlfriends beagles. It went and sniffed the butt of her other beagle. I tried to get one of the stray cats I've befriended to read On Liberty by John Stuart Mill, it meowed at me. Sure, some animals can display complex emotions, but none are up to understanding the concept of rights.
    So, you must also be against voting rights for our animal friends.

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    Re: Should animals have more rights/protection/etc

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Define "cruel". I grew up in the chicken farming business and let me tell you something about chickens man. Chickens are some of the dumbest ****ing animals in the world. Well at least at night. In the day time they are fairly crafty. If you have a chicken farm with about 70,000+ chickens how do you think you gather them all up in less than 6 hours to take to the slaughter house? You turn off the lights. If you turn off the lights they are so dumb that they think they are asleep. They won't even move. If you are in a sea of chickens with the lights off you literally have to kick them out of your way to get out the door. I made that mistake once when I was a kid. Other than that farmers do everything they can to protect them and be humane. They have to constantly worry about chicken hawks, wild cats, dogs, the heat, the cold, disease, tornados, hurricanes, etc. My thing is, actually do it be a farmer, and see how hard it is to raise these things then preach.
    And chickens are smarter than turkeys.

    I do think that all animals should be protected from human cruelty and that the beef, chicken, and etc. sellers and processors should be held to strict humane codes. But we're talking about animals here, and until they can register at DP and join in this discussion....

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