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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The idea that anyone call shipping American jobs and manufacturing over seas to be patriotic is laughable.This is one of the things that pisses me off about the chamber of commerce republicans.THey will sit there and tell you that they love American and that communist are evil and suck dick. Then they turn around and support something so unAmerican as outsourcing jobs and increasing China's means of strengthening and updating their military.These are the capitalists who will knowingly sell the rope that will later be used to hang them with.
    Indeed. It boggles my mind to hear this talk about the need to thwart the rise of China, while at the same time we essentially gave them the money to facilitate that rise. Amazing!

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    That would be a function of your knowledge about the way the products were manufactured, what is available for you to purchase, what you can afford, and the time you have to do the research. Depending on how all that shakes out, it may or it may not be.
    And a CEO could come with a similar list of points that go into the decision making process of whether to open a call center in Des Moines or Singapore.


    It it neither patriotic or unpatriotic. It's business. And the management of a firm are legally and ethically responsible to use the assets of the owners of the firm wisely. If that means offshoring work then so be it.
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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    And a CEO could come with a similar list of points that go into the decision making process of whether to open a call center in Des Moines or Singapore.
    It might be similar but it would not be the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    It it neither patriotic or unpatriotic. It's business. And the management of a firm are legally and ethically responsible to use the assets of the owners of the firm wisely. If that means offshoring work then so be it.
    I would say it is unpatriotic if you unnecessarily ship U.S. jobs overseas. It might be that it time to put some high tariffs on imported goods.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    As usual, quite a bit of smoke, but no fire.
    Such a well thought out defense of your position...

    A business is in the job of making money. That is their purpose. Businesses can, should, and do base decisions on that profit motive. It is entirely irrelevant to whether they love their country. You can love your country and still outsource if that is what is best for your business.

    Now when you respond, how about you actually address my comments instead of just dismissing them. It is much harder to do, but do at least try.
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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Such a well thought out defense of your position...

    A business is in the job of making money. That is their purpose. Businesses can, should, and do base decisions on that profit motive. It is entirely irrelevant to whether they love their country. You can love your country and still outsource if that is what is best for your business.

    Now when you respond, how about you actually address my comments instead of just dismissing them. It is much harder to do, but do at least try.


    Any rate, since you made a response this time, I will reciprocate. The problem with what you have said here is that you appear to think that businesses should be solely motivated by profit. This is a flawed notion. There are ethical concerns, environmental concerns, and humanitarian concerns that should be taken into consideration as well. Why? Because these are the characteristics of civilized human beings that distinguish them from animals in the jungle who only care about their next meal to the exclusion of all else. As a result of these types of considerations, certainly we can say that patriotism should be a factor when making such a decision to outsource jobs.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    It's a really ignorant question. What does outsourcing jobs by a company to make money have to do with patriotism??? That's like asking is it patriotic to go on vacation in another country?
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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    It might be a smart business decision but it certainly isn't patriotic.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    The U.S. foreign policy establishment appears to think that the rise of China's power that is associated with the wealth that they have gained from such outsourcing is a problem.
    If this is true, then where are the sweeping changes in current laws?

    As long as the goods made in China have sufficient demand from US customers, then there is no problem.

    U.S. consumers who only want low prices will continue to buy Chinese made goods, and U.S. companies will continue to outsource their manufacturing.

    Nothing will change, and Chinese outsourcing will increase.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    I'm with Redress on this one...

    that said, I think the phrase " the chief business of the American people is business." hold much truth.

    business/commerce reigns supreme... as it should.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post


    Any rate, since you made a response this time, I will reciprocate. The problem with what you have said here is that you appear to think that businesses should be solely motivated by profit. This is a flawed notion. There are ethical concerns, environmental concerns, and humanitarian concerns that should be taken into consideration as well. Why? Because these are the characteristics of civilized human beings that distinguish them from animals in the jungle who only care about their next meal to the exclusion of all else. As a result of these types of considerations, certainly we can say that patriotism should be a factor when making such a decision to outsource jobs.
    Never happen - shareholders will push for increased stock value - patriotism has no tangible value.

    Your opinion has no value in relation to US corporate profit objectives.

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