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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Money???
    So their reward will be just a Thank You note?

    That will be a short line.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    So their reward will be just a Thank You note?

    That will be a short line.
    Senate Republicans blocked a bill that would end tax breaks for companies that send jobs overseas.

    On Wednesday, the Senate voted 54-42 to end debate on S. 2569, the Bring Jobs Home Act — 60 votes were needed to advance the measure.

    Sens. John Walsh (D-Mont.) and Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) introduced the bill, which would give companies incentives to bring jobs back to the United States, including a tax write-off for the relocating costs and an additional 20 percent credit.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Nossir. I wouldn't go so far as to call it treason.... but it damn sure isn't patriotic.
    I don't see how it is one or the other.

    Is it patriotic to distort price signals to keep Americans locked into unproductive enterprises, struggling against a higher cost of living?
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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I don't see how it is one or the other.

    Is it patriotic to distort price signals to keep Americans locked into unproductive enterprises, struggling against a higher cost of living?
    Yes it is.Our founders did it.It doesn't take a genius to figure out that if you don't have tariffs then you can kiss manufacturing in the country goodbye.
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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Poor multi-billionaires and those punitive tariffs. Cos one 50-room mansion will never be enough, yo.

    I'm filling up, here.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    If we did those first things, we likely wouldn't have to worry too much about encouraging saving, as few people would have any money to save.

    You do understand that when consumers save more, that means they aren't consuming as much, and thus businesses don't expand, and new jobs aren't created (they are actually destroyed), don't you? And you do realize that when workers recieve less compensation, they spend less and save less don't you?

    What you just did was to outline a race to the bottom. In no time we would have third world poverty.
    I wasn't aware that the problem of third world poverty was caused by their citizens not demanding enough. That's quite an interesting proposition.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    No.

    Is the business that stays in America and opens up some big plant on the ghetto side of town and employs 800 illegal aliens anymore "Patriotic"?


    I'd say no.



    Almost everything that says "Made in America" these days was actually made in Mexico, China or Vietnam and they just use a Made in America tag. It's the same thing with high end suits at high end suit clothing stores such as Brooks Brothers or higher. They're not actually made in USA or Europe they're made in China like the $200 suits only the tags are printed made in USA or they're sent over once completed to USA and in-shop the US seller will make some small adjustment to the finished product and then say it's made in USA. It isn't. There's almost no real manufacturing left in USA beyond ultra unionized auto jobs and those are basically only there thanks to politicians making their bread and butter on them else they'd be gone as well.
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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I wasn't aware that the problem of third world poverty was caused by their citizens not demanding enough. That's quite an interesting proposition.
    If only they bought more automobiles with the goods or money that they don't have, they'd all be rich as Croesus.
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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    We now here calls that the U.S. must confront the rise of China. However, China's rise has been facilitated by the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing to places like China, and selling those cheap goods to U.S. consumers. As such, is the outsourcing of jobs overseas patriotic?
    A solution to this problem would be to increase outsourcing to other countries. Indonesia, India, Brazil, Pakistan-a long list. This raises the standard of living in those countries while helping to set up competition to the Chinese companies. And we all do better when the poor overseas increase their living standards.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    I wasn't aware that the problem of third world poverty was caused by their citizens not demanding enough. That's quite an interesting proposition.
    It's caused by them not being paid enough and thus not being able to consume enough. Ending poverty is about a country doing whatever it takes to develop it's internal market. I don't really think that's interesting, it's obvious.
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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