View Poll Results: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

Voters
42. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    6 14.29%
  • No

    29 69.05%
  • Maybe

    6 14.29%
  • Don't know

    1 2.38%
Page 18 of 24 FirstFirst ... 81617181920 ... LastLast
Results 171 to 180 of 236

Thread: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

  1. #171
    Left the building
    Fearandloathing's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Vancouver, Canada Dual citizen
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    17,242

    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    We now here calls that the U.S. must confront the rise of China. However, China's rise has been facilitated by the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing to places like China, and selling those cheap goods to U.S. consumers. As such, is the outsourcing of jobs overseas patriotic?
    It can only be answered with a question:

    How much more are you willing to pay for your gadgets to have them made in the US?

    You can't have cheap **** and a higher minimum wage, income 'equality" etc.
    "Small people talk about people, average people talk about events, great people talk about ideas" Eleanor Roosevelt

  2. #172
    Sometimes wrong

    ttwtt78640's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Uhland, Texas
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:45 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    31,660

    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    There should have been higher tariffs on imported cars from the beginning.
    Nonsense - tariffs (if any) should apply to CONTENT regardless of the point of final assembly. Many "foreign" vehicles have more domestic parts than "US" vehicles and both are assembled here.

    Full-size truck buyers may be surprised that the Toyota Tundra uses more domestic parts than any of its rivals. With 80 percent of its parts from the U.S. and Canada, the Tundra is 10 percent more American than its closest domestic rival, the Dodge Ram, and significantly more American than the Ford F-Series, which gets 40 percent of its parts from other countries.
    How Patriotic is Your Car? | U.S. News Best Cars
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

  3. #173
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Last Seen
    08-18-15 @ 08:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,974

    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Wow - who knew? Is it responsible for climate change too?
    Oh no! What happens when you outsource manufacturing jobs overseas is that you erode middle class purchasing power. To make up for it, the Federal Reserve devised cheap credit which facilitated a housing bubble, which in turn led to the huge derivatives market, of which mortgage back securities (MBS), were a part. The derivatives market then overheated, no one then knew exactly how much risk they were exposed to, investors panicked, and the system unraveled. If the Fed had not stepped in, and literally take TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TOXIC MBS debt from the banks and put it on their books, the whole system would have fallen a part. Now, that's the truth.

  4. #174
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Last Seen
    08-18-15 @ 08:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,974

    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    It can only be answered with a question:

    How much more are you willing to pay for your gadgets to have them made in the US?

    You can't have cheap **** and a higher minimum wage, income 'equality" etc.
    You have to pay what you have to pay. People were somehow able to purchase things before we dismantled the manufacturing base here. Surely you must remember that.

  5. #175
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Last Seen
    08-18-15 @ 08:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,974

    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Nonsense - tariffs (if any) should apply to CONTENT regardless of the point of final assembly. Many "foreign" vehicles have more domestic parts than "US" vehicles and both are assembled here.
    No. What I am saying is that there should have been very high tariffs imposed on foreign cars FROM THE START. The problem with the U.S. auto business is a result of a combination of having to compete with foreign cars and the oil price shock. If tariffs had been imposed on foreign cars FROM THE START, the U.S. auto business would not have had the types of problems that it had.

  6. #176
    Sage

    ObamacareFail's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    Earth
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:38 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    13,739

    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Nossir. I wouldn't go so far as to call it treason.... but it damn sure isn't patriotic.
    I disagree. In the long run it can be patriotic. When our government many corporations out of existence, it's a matter of self preservation. We have the highest and most punitive corporate tax in the developed world.

  7. #177
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Last Seen
    08-18-15 @ 08:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,974

    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    I disagree. In the long run it can be patriotic. When our government many corporations out of existence, it's a matter of self preservation. We have the highest and most punitive corporate tax in the developed world.
    The outsourcing of jobs overseas has been primarily about exploiting cheap overseas labor, not taxes.

  8. #178
    Don't Give a Rat's Ass
    SMTA's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    OH
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 07:34 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    21,098

    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No it isn't foolish for the reason that dismantling the manufacturing base erodes the middle class and those ruins the economy. The only damn thing it has done is made it such that the economy depends on the ability of the system to provide credit, which has led to the enormous amount of indebtedness of the U.S. today. It's totally stupid, brain dead, foolish, and myopic. Over and above that it is unsustainable, and did, in fact, contribute to the 2008 financial crisis.
    News flash!

    IF you are looking for a cause for the 2008 crisis, look at derivatives, not consumer credit.
    Greatness lies not in being strong, but in the right use of strength - Henry Ward Beecher
    Baby sister, I was born game and I intend to go out that way - Rooster Cogburn

  9. #179
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Last Seen
    08-18-15 @ 08:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,974

    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    News flash!

    IF you are looking for a cause for the 2008 crisis, look at derivatives, not consumer credit.
    News flash. Please see this post

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1064542069

  10. #180
    Sometimes wrong

    ttwtt78640's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    Uhland, Texas
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:45 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    31,660

    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    No. What I am saying is that there should have been very high tariffs imposed on foreign cars FROM THE START. The problem with the U.S. auto business is a result of a combination of having to compete with foreign cars and the oil price shock. If tariffs had been imposed on foreign cars FROM THE START, the U.S. auto business would not have had the types of problems that it had.
    That (bolded above) assertion requires documentation - perhaps a link would be in order. The nonsense about the oil price shock did not affect US autos any more than foreign autos. If you care to look, you will find that US autos tended to be high profit, low gas milage monsters which was a poor marketing decision - also you will find that the US auto industry had "no lay off" union contracts and ridiculous "lifetime" benefit packages costing billions simply to pay prior workers and their dependents to do nothing.

    Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?-image-jpg

    UAW Workers Actually Cost the Big Three Automakers $70 an Hour
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

Page 18 of 24 FirstFirst ... 81617181920 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •