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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Well said

    I would add our standard of living would crash.
    Why would our standard of living crash?

    If we stopped outsourcing as many jobs, then more people in the US would have jobs, which means we would produce more wealth right here in the USA.

    Now maybe that would cause a few percent inflation, but like it or not, the Federal Reserve has determined that a few percent of inflation is stimulative to our economy and they strive to achieve such. So if we had a few percent of inflation due to cost push pressure, it would simply help to achieve the Feds goal, without the fed having to intervene by pumping more money into the system - so most likely there would be no additional inflation than what would have occurred without more jobs.

    In the mean time, our wages would naturally tend to rise as employers have to compete harder and harder for workers, consumption increases as more people get jobs, production increases as businesses strive to meet demand, and the GDP increases. None of that is a bad thing, it's basically what happens when we have a strong economy.

    You think that a strong economy = crash?
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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Imo, it isn't really a matter of patriotism, but one of trying to preserve a viable means of helping people succeed in this country, without having to be highly educated or skilled. Once was the day that the average Joe could get a job in manufacturing, and manage to not only pay his bills, but also enjoy life a little. With the losses of jobs to overseas manufacturing, many of those once-tolerable jobs, for people who didn't have the time, resources, or capability for higher education, are gone.

    People in this society are generally unwilling to pay a little more, to help insure that we have decent jobs- most just want to get something for very little money, everyone else be damned. It's a sad state of affairs these days.
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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Why would our standard of living crash?

    If we stopped outsourcing as many jobs, then more people in the US would have jobs, which means we would produce more wealth right here in the USA.

    Now maybe that would cause a few percent inflation, but like it or not, the Federal Reserve has determined that a few percent of inflation is stimulative to our economy and they strive to achieve such. So if we had a few percent of inflation due to cost push pressure, it would simply help to achieve the Feds goal, without the fed having to intervene by pumping more money into the system - so most likely there would be no additional inflation than what would have occurred without more jobs.

    In the mean time, our wages would naturally tend to rise as employers have to compete harder and harder for workers, consumption increases as more people get jobs, production increases as businesses strive to meet demand, and the GDP increases. None of that is a bad thing, it's basically what happens when we have a strong economy.

    You think that a strong economy = crash?
    Read my post again.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    We now here calls that the U.S. must confront the rise of China. However, China's rise has been facilitated by the outsourcing of U.S. manufacturing to places like China, and selling those cheap goods to U.S. consumers. As such, is the outsourcing of jobs overseas patriotic?
    Is driving business offshore patriotic? No, it's not.

    Which POTUS gave China "most flavored nation" trade status? Hmmmm, it's on the tip of my tongue.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Is driving business offshore patriotic? No, it's not.

    Which POTUS gave China "most flavored nation" trade status? Hmmmm, it's on the tip of my tongue.
    Businesses are making the decision to move offshore themselves, mainly to reduce labor costs, and avoid taxes.

    They are driving themselves out.

    Regarding most favored nation status, you obviously do not understand that this is structured reciprocity in economic relationships.

    To simplify it for you, the nation who receives MFN status is expected to return the equal trade advantages to the other nation - the concept is rooted in the equality of openness and reduced sanctions.

    If the normal balance of trade skews towards one nation due to the excessive economic demands of the other, than that is a natural imbalance due to consumption differences.
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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Businesses are making the decision to move offshore themselves, mainly to reduce labor costs, and avoid taxes.

    They are driving themselves out.

    Regarding most favored nation status, you obviously do not understand that this is structured reciprocity in economic relationships.

    To simplify it for you, the nation who receives MFN status is expected to return the equal trade advantages to the other nation - the concept is rooted in the equality of openness and reduced sanctions.

    If the normal balance of trade skews towards one nation due to the excessive economic demands of the other, than that is a natural imbalance due to consumption differences.
    Environmental laws also cause businesses to move.
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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Environmental laws also cause businesses to move.
    Exactly.

    We can thank China for the formaldehyde in our flooring and drywall that is sickening Americans.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Why would our standard of living crash?

    If we stopped outsourcing as many jobs, then more people in the US would have jobs, which means we would produce more wealth right here in the USA.

    Now maybe that would cause a few percent inflation, but like it or not, the Federal Reserve has determined that a few percent of inflation is stimulative to our economy and they strive to achieve such. So if we had a few percent of inflation due to cost push pressure, it would simply help to achieve the Feds goal, without the fed having to intervene by pumping more money into the system - so most likely there would be no additional inflation than what would have occurred without more jobs.

    In the mean time, our wages would naturally tend to rise as employers have to compete harder and harder for workers, consumption increases as more people get jobs, production increases as businesses strive to meet demand, and the GDP increases. None of that is a bad thing, it's basically what happens when we have a strong economy.

    You think that a strong economy = crash?
    This sounds nice and all, but the capitalist wouldn't produce as much profit,

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Yea, you are totally wrong - completely bull**** logic rooted in ignorance.
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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Is driving business offshore patriotic? No, it's not.

    Which POTUS gave China "most flavored nation" trade status? Hmmmm, it's on the tip of my tongue.
    And just why do you think these are the type of people that we get to choose from, both Democrat and Republican.

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