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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Such is the way of the capitalist.
    How much do Factory workers make in the Soviet Union again? Oh that right.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    As opposed to the communist way of killing millions by oppression and starvation... I'll take the capitalist way anytime.
    Ah, and capitalism hasn't killed millions or caused starvation? Ah, keep saying "communist" way, not knowing anything about history, nor mao/stalin. You don't even know what communism is.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    How much do Factory workers make in the Soviet Union again? Oh that right.
    The soviet union stopped existing in 1991, first of all, and you obviously know nothing about how the USSR handled anything.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Ah, and capitalism hasn't killed millions or caused starvation? Ah, keep saying "communist" way, not knowing anything about history, nor mao/stalin. You don't even know what communism is.
    I know full well what communism is. USSR and Mao's China are prime examples of it. Of course an apologist like you will keep claiming that "Oh but communism has never been implemented"... wrong, those regimes did try but Marx's original ideas were so unworkable that it couldnt get even beyond the theory stage, thats who stupid communism is- it cant even be implemented past a certain point.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    The soviet union stopped existing in 1991, first of all, and you obviously know nothing about how the USSR handled anything.
    I know that, that was the point of the post.

    I know they murdered tens of millions of innocent people, had grinding poverty and proven Communism is a failure.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    I know full well what communism is. USSR and Mao's China are prime examples of it. Of course an apologist like you will keep claiming that "Oh but communism has never been implemented"... wrong, those regimes did try but Marx's original ideas were so unworkable that it couldnt get even beyond the theory stage, thats who stupid communism is- it cant even be implemented past a certain point.
    Remarkable. I believe I've had to explain basic concepts and history on this forum many times now. The USSR was a marxist-leninist state that was not as bad as you make it out to be, same with Mao's china, which followed Maoism, which is an extension of marxism-leninism, adding on very valuable work to the theory. It literally has never been implemented, you show me one "communist state" that actually says they have achieved communism, communism literally has no state, no money, no social classes, shared ownership of production, you show me where this has happened. Marx's original ideas? I'm sure you know all about Marx, I'm sure you've studied his ideas and him extensively. You're referring to marxism-leninism, which actually made decent progress, the problem is, and people like trotsky realized this, is that communism must be international. Of course, you'll reply with the usual uneducated jargon, I'm used to it by now.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanSpartan View Post
    I know that, that was the point of the post.

    I know they murdered tens of millions of innocent people, had grinding poverty and proven Communism is a failure.
    Tens of millions innocent people? Show me where you're getting this number, and how they're all innocent. Grinding poverty? This also exists for billions under capitalism, and it wasn't for the majority in the USSR. You keep saying communism is a failure. Jesus christ.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Tens of millions innocent people? Show me where you're getting this number, and how they're all innocent.
    "Holodomor" Ukrainian Famine/Genocide of 1932-33

    How are they anything but innocent?

    That statement says more about you and the sickness of your ideology.

    Why is never people like you who die in such democides...Why?


    Grinding poverty? This also exists for billions under capitalism, and it wasn't for the majority in the USSR. You keep saying communism is a failure. Jesus christ.
    They have the chance and means of advancing and will if they choose to as the goverment does not impede them.

    Yes it was, waiting in line for bread and toilet on top if 14% inflation.

    GDP per capita
    $5,800 (1982 est.) (Nominal; 32nd)
    $9,130 (1991 est.) (PPP; 33rd)[4]

    Yes they were..

    Poverty, Crime, Terror, Enslavement, and Democide, how is that anything but the very definition of failure.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Ah, and capitalism hasn't killed millions or caused starvation? Ah, keep saying "communist" way, not knowing anything about history, nor mao/stalin. You don't even know what communism is.
    No, it is has not. Name us one time owners took unarmed people out a field and shot them after having them dig their own graves...Name us one time.

    Name us one time we had troops take away crops from farmers (who they later shot after the harvest) and the people of a nation to use those funds to build up industry while millions of people starved to death and those that did restored to cannibalism,...Name us one time that happened under capitalism.


    Because that happened in the Ukraine. It was called the Holodomor.

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    Re: Is outsourcing jobs overseas patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Hey, it's all about finding that cheap labor, paying cheap wages...
    Not necessarily. Many 24 hour operations site staff in countries where the people can work during what is their day time because people are generally more effective during daylight hours.

    We site our third shift (US) staff in India for that reason. It does saves some money on salaries/benefits, about 10%, though complying with Indian labor laws is a PITA.

    We also have staff in London. In that case it's because the main customers for the service they support are in Europe.
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