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    Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    From a citizen's standpoint.
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    Re: Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    From a citizen's standpoint.
    Maybe not futile, but certainly discouraging. Seems no matter who gets in office and how sincere their campaigning (I think Obama was sincere in his 2008 campaigning), once in office they are purchased by lobbyists and those taking advantage of Citizens United ruling. Every term it seems we slide deeper into an oligarchy regardless of party.
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    Re: Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    Sometimes. That's why I got involved in politics, to try to make it not so futile.
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    Re: Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    Yeah, i mean, 200+ years after separation of church and state and we're still getting garbage like this:

    Tennessee House votes Bible as official state book

    Politics is the self serving art of doing nothing while pretending to accomplish everything. That pretty much makes democracy futile

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    Re: Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    From a citizen's standpoint.
    absolutely.... that's why I use politics as a form of entertainment now.... it is very much futile, no doubt about it.

    if folks take it serious , they only set themselves up for frustration and bitterness.

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    Re: Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Yeah, i mean, 200+ years after separation of church and state and we're still getting garbage like this:

    Tennessee House votes Bible as official state book

    Politics is the self serving art of doing nothing while pretending to accomplish everything. That pretty much makes democracy futile
    Yes, and in a state with 5th worst unemployment rate in the country.
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    Re: Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Yeah, i mean, 200+ years after separation of church and state and we're still getting garbage like this:

    Tennessee House votes Bible as official state book

    Politics is the self serving art of doing nothing while pretending to accomplish everything. That pretty much makes democracy futile

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    Re: Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Yes, and in a state with 5th worst unemployment rate in the country.
    what does employment have to do with an official state book??

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    Re: Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    absolutely.... that's why I use politics as a form of entertainment now.... it is very much futile, no doubt about it.

    if folks take it serious , they only set themselves up for frustration and bitterness.
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    Re: Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Do you ever feel that everything political is futile?

    From a citizen's standpoint.


    Sorta-kinda, but not entirely.


    Elections do matter. The changes are often subtle and hard to see in the short term, but it can make a difference.


    Within my own lifetime, I felt like the 70s were an out of control, chaotic decade where we were on an utterly wrong trajectory... but we managed to make a course correction and avoid doing a Titanic, by a narrow margin.


    Not to say we were then on the straight and narrow... no we weren't. We dodged an iceberg but we were still in high seas and taking on water.

    Things stabilized somewhat as we went into the 90s, and that's good since we didn't know 9/11 was coming... a demarcation line, watershed moment that changed a lot of things. The moment when we realized all that stuff "over there" could suddenly show up "over HERE" in a big way, even if we were mostly minding our business at the moment.

    We could have responded better, we could have done worse. On the whole lets just say we navigated that decade without major disaster and with less suffering that might have been the case.


    This decade we seem to be drifting with the wind and tide.... the engines are barely turning on the Ship of State, and half the time it feels like no one is manning the helm (or else spinning it at random). The next election or two may determine how far off course we drift, and how long it will take to resume a safe and prosperous course and heading...


    So yeah, elections matter. But on the other hand, we hear so much BS, so much "positioning" and "strategy", and so little honesty or real statesmanship, that it seems nearly futile at times. With both parties putting up crappy same-old candidates and ideas, our choices seem limited.

    And in things like arguing on DP, even though I know sometimes opinions do change it is so rare it also seems futile much of the time. Much of the time, neither side is even really listening to the other, just talking past each other.


    Depends on what day you ask I suppose.

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