View Poll Results: Your thoughts on the Patriot Act?

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Thread: Should the Patriot Act be allow to expire?

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    Re: Should the Patriot Act be allow to expire?

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    I agree, if some parts of it are necessary, let those be argued on their own merit.
    Good morning, longview.

    Since it has recently been reported that ISIS is now in all 50 States, has no one been guarding the henhouse? Most of us are just trying to get on with our lives, not realizing that something fundamental has changed in this Country. If only a few States were involved, that would be bad enough, but all 50? That sounds like a coordinated plan according to someone's agenda. Things like that just don't happen accidently, IMO - the odds are against it, so who is deciding who goes where, so all states are involved?
    Can we expect a series of simultaneous coordinated "attacks" at some point in the future, which would be a reason to declare martial law? I keep saying that we are not a third-world country, and we aren't, but it sure looks like some are trying to make it so!

    "A nation can survive its fools, even the ambitious. But it cannot survive terror from within, for the traitor appears not to be a traitor. He speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face. He works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. The traitor infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear." Marcus Tullius Cicero - born over 2000 years ago. Traitors have always been among us, it appears!

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    Re: Should the Patriot Act be allow to expire?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, longview.

    Since it has recently been reported that ISIS is now in all 50 States, has no one been guarding the henhouse? Most of us are just trying to get on with our lives, not realizing that something fundamental has changed in this Country. If only a few States were involved, that would be bad enough, but all 50? That sounds like a coordinated plan according to someone's agenda. Things like that just don't happen accidently, IMO - the odds are against it, so who is deciding who goes where, so all states are involved?
    Can we expect a series of simultaneous coordinated "attacks" at some point in the future, which would be a reason to declare martial law? I keep saying that we are not a third-world country, and we aren't, but it sure looks like some are trying to make it so!

    "A nation can survive its fools, even the ambitious. But it cannot survive terror from within, for the traitor appears not to be a traitor. He speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face. He works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. The traitor infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear." Marcus Tullius Cicero - born over 2000 years ago. Traitors have always been among us, it appears!


    While I don't doubt there is ISIS activity in the US, I suspect the boast had more to do with his upcoming budget hearings.

    What level of ISIS activity?

    Now the fact that the chief executive officer has not mentioned this is the worrisome part. Even allowing for low level activity like recruitment, the administration is silent, or to them 'not an issue"

    And that's what needs answering. Is there a real threat to security? If so, with all the power of the Patriot Act, water boarding, Gitmo and renditioning why is it still there?
    If you have cancer you kill it before it spreads.

    I suspect to do so would be bad for the image of the peace prize president.


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    Re: Should the Patriot Act be allow to expire?

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, longview.

    Since it has recently been reported that ISIS is now in all 50 States, has no one been guarding the henhouse? Most of us are just trying to get on with our lives, not realizing that something fundamental has changed in this Country. If only a few States were involved, that would be bad enough, but all 50? That sounds like a coordinated plan according to someone's agenda. Things like that just don't happen accidently, IMO - the odds are against it, so who is deciding who goes where, so all states are involved?
    Can we expect a series of simultaneous coordinated "attacks" at some point in the future, which would be a reason to declare martial law? I keep saying that we are not a third-world country, and we aren't, but it sure looks like some are trying to make it so!

    "A nation can survive its fools, even the ambitious. But it cannot survive terror from within, for the traitor appears not to be a traitor. He speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face. He works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. The traitor infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear." Marcus Tullius Cicero - born over 2000 years ago. Traitors have always been among us, it appears!
    Our only saving grace, may be that big organizations have trouble both keeping secrets,
    and being coordinated.

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