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Will you vote for Hillary as our next President? [W:302]

Will you vote for Hillary as our next President


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Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Should the corrupt elderly Mrs. Clinton be elected, she would be 70 years old upon taking office.
We would have gone the last forty six years with either a Clinton or Bush in the executive branch. It's time for new blood and an end to the Clinton and Bush dynasties.

Yet you guys always give a pass to Reagan's age--since he turned 70 on Feb. 6th, 1981 .
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Yet you guys always give a pass to Reagan's age--since he turned 70 on Feb. 6th, 1981 .

we can turn that around and note that lots of Clinton fluffers whined about Reagan's age.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

If you're big government, you'd be crazy not to vote for Hill, right? What's centrist about being big government?

Trust me, it makes sense.

Big government centrism or conservatism. In the States, they refer to my tendencies as neoconservative (in domestic policy), with much to compare in terms of Rockefeller Republicanism. In Europe, I would be a Disraeli or One Nation conservative.

While I am pretty minority conscious, I'm not a fan of Left-wing protest strategies, I do not have much sympathy with green politics, I'm more of the realist school in foreign policy, I consider myself a fellow-traveler in terms of the conservative education accountability movement (meaning, you might find me as providing indifferent support for Common Core, checking the influence of teacher unions, requiring the collection of broad chunks of data, and using standardized testing to gauge performance), I believe in utilizing a number of social conservative viewpoints, and have little interest in trying to upend the influence of the rich (that being said, I'm not exactly wanting to expand it either).

Whereas progressive liberals and populist conservatives seem to abhor the status-quo and somehow believe the world has gone to ****, I find myself rather pleased with the way things are. Reforms are necessary, to be sure, but I find much of the political conversation in this country to be overexaggerated.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

I would have preferred Hillary to Obama in 2008. Pretty sure I said so here at DP. As of now? Her age certainly concerns me. So did Reagan's. I'd prefer to wait and see who the candidates are on both sides of the ticket. Heck, I might just run again, too.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Rewriting history is always the best way to solve today's problems.

we can turn that around and note that lots of Clinton fluffers whined about Reagan's age.

At least you don't see lefties throwing around moronic nonsense like this:

I saw stuff rotting on the road on the way home from the gun club today that
I would rather have in the oval office than Carpetbagging Cankles

After all, it was the right-wing Wall Street Journal who coined the phrase "Kamikaze Kruz" >
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Trust me, it makes sense.

Big government centrism or conservatism. In the States, they refer to my tendencies as neoconservative (in domestic policy), with much to compare in terms of Rockefeller Republicanism. In Europe, I would be a Disraeli or One Nation conservative.

While I am pretty minority conscious, I'm not a fan of Left-wing protest strategies, I do not have much sympathy with green politics, I'm more of the realist school in foreign policy, I consider myself a fellow-traveler in terms of the conservative education accountability movement (meaning, you might find me as providing indifferent support for Common Core, checking the influence of teacher unions, requiring the collection of broad chunks of data, and using standardized testing to gauge performance), I believe in utilizing a number of social conservative viewpoints, and have little interest in trying to upend the influence of the rich (that being said, I'm not exactly wanting to expand it either).

Whereas progressive liberals and populist conservatives seem to abhor the status-quo and somehow believe the world has gone to ****, I find myself rather pleased with the way things are. Reforms are necessary, to be sure, but I find much of the political conversation in this country to be overexaggerated.

Sounds like the words of a comfortable man.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Rewriting history is always the best way to solve today's problems.



At least you don't see lefties throwing around moronic nonsense like this:



After all, it was the right-wing Wall Street Journal who coined the phrase "Kamikaze Kruz" >

I see lefties throwing around all sorts of crap. Like claiming Bush was responsible for 9-11. Like claiming Bush was too stupid to be president. Like Claiming Cheney ran the country. LIke Claiming Laura Bush murdered her ex boyfriend. Like claiming 9-11 was an inside job. Do you actually read this board? admittedly you weren't here when Bush was in office. You weren't here during the first term of Obama where his fluffers were blaming every screw up on Bush
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Sounds like the words of a comfortable man.

Politically, yes. Financially, no. As a minority, not really, but getting there.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

I see lefties throwing around all sorts of crap. Like claiming Bush was responsible for 9-11. Like claiming Bush was too stupid to be president. Like Claiming Cheney ran the country. LIke Claiming Laura Bush murdered her ex boyfriend. Like claiming 9-11 was an inside job. Do you actually read this board? admittedly you weren't here when Bush was in office. You weren't here during the first term of Obama where his fluffers were blaming every screw up on Bush

Moronic hacks from each side have said some pretty stupid things. I was around here when Bush was President. Saw a lot of the stupidity of which you speak spewed by lefties. Currently, I see tons of stupidity spewed by righties about Obama. If the next President is a lefty, I expect more of the same. If the next President is a righty, it'll revert back to how it was during the Bush years. Hacks will be hacks. They don't care about anything, their party, the US, nothing. All they care about is blaming the other guy.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Yet you guys always give a pass to Reagan's age--since he turned 70 on Feb. 6th, 1981 .

I think the difference is that it was a different era. Old white men ran everything in 1980 and Reagan didn't seem 'out of touch' with what was going on. Today, change happens in an instant and technology can make a middle-ager seem over the hill. In a world that demands the fresh and the new and the latest, Hillary doesn't pass the test. Seriously, how many grandmothers do you know that are in touch with modern times and modern technology? Hell, Clinton cant seem to juggle two phones at the State Department. Its not that 70 is too old to govern. It might be that 70 is to old to be elected to govern. I don't think her age is an infirmity in leadership, and may in fact be an asset, but I don't know that enough people look at things that way. Hillary standing next to a young, energetic opponent will bring back images of an ancient McCain standing next to a young, energetic Obama. She will get 47% of the vote, but she wont win.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

I don't think she's particularly liberal or progressive, but I'd consider voting for her as a lot of Republicans reluctantly voted for Romney and McCain.

I don't think that her values or beliefs line up particularly with my own, but I think she'd be better than Obama perhaps at playing the game of politics and dealing with Congress and being an administrator and dealbroker overall.
I think that's fair when compared with Obama.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

She has been crowned the nominee of the democratic party and you sure as hell would never vote for a Republican Redress.
If I recall correctly, she was also crowned the nominee in '08, too... then it never happened.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Moronic hacks from each side have said some pretty stupid things. I was around here when Bush was President. Saw a lot of the stupidity of which you speak spewed by lefties. Currently, I see tons of stupidity spewed by righties about Obama. If the next President is a lefty, I expect more of the same. If the next President is a righty, it'll revert back to how it was during the Bush years. Hacks will be hacks. They don't care about anything, their party, the US, nothing. All they care about is blaming the other guy.

Secretly most of the posters here would rather have the opposing party win. It is so much more entertaining to throw rocks at a building rather than build one.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

I would have to see who she was running against. Kind of silly to say you would vote for a candidate without even knowing who the other candidate is yet.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Secretly most of the posters here would rather have the opposing party win. It is so much more entertaining to throw rocks at a building rather than build one.

Unfortunately, you could be right about that. That was the point of my last line. I like your analogy.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Moronic hacks from each side have said some pretty stupid things. I was around here when Bush was President. Saw a lot of the stupidity of which you speak spewed by lefties. Currently, I see tons of stupidity spewed by righties about Obama. If the next President is a lefty, I expect more of the same. If the next President is a righty, it'll revert back to how it was during the Bush years. Hacks will be hacks. They don't care about anything, their party, the US, nothing. All they care about is blaming the other guy.

I have been on here for 10 years. Only the most extreme nutjobs on the left were claiming that Bush was behind 911 or Laura had her ex murdered. There are a lot more people on the right that believed absolutely crazy things about the Clintons and Obamas than liberals that were so crazy as to believe that 9/11 was inside job.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Yet you guys always give a pass to Reagan's age--since he turned 70 on Feb. 6th, 1981 .

Liberals will never recover from Reagan. Since you hold him in low regard, could his age be one of your objections? How does that square with the corrupt elderly Mrs. Clinton?
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

I have been on here for 10 years. Only the most extreme nutjobs on the left were claiming that Bush was behind 911 or Laura had her ex murdered. There are a lot more people on the right that believed absolutely crazy things about the Clintons and Obamas than liberals that were so crazy as to believe that 9/11 was inside job.

Perhaps the crazies on the right who believe more absurd things are just louder and more vocal.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

I would have to see who she was running against. Kind of silly to say you would vote for a candidate without even knowing who the other candidate is yet.

Well, you're right about that. I would certainly consider voting for her if Satan were her opposition.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

I would have preferred Hillary to Obama in 2008. Pretty sure I said so here at DP. As of now? Her age certainly concerns me. So did Reagan's. I'd prefer to wait and see who the candidates are on both sides of the ticket. Heck, I might just run again, too.

Mirrors me perfectly. I was aghast that an unqualified empty suit with a winning smile, who had never finished a single term of any elected office, got the nomination. I refused to vote for Obama in 2008, and went for a write-in.

Now I'm waiting to see who the actual candidates are before I make a decision. I've voted for more republican presidents than democratic in my lifetime, but there are some serious nutter-butters in the republican party at the moment.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

Mirrors me perfectly. I was aghast that an unqualified empty suit with a winning smile, who had never finished a single term of any elected office, got the nomination. I refused to vote for Obama in 2008, and went for a write-in.

Agree 100%. Refused to vote for President in 2008. Hillary knows politics and how to deal. She'd have been much better than Obama... and tougher, too.

Now I'm waiting to see who the actual candidates are before I make a decision. I've voted for more republican presidents than democratic in my lifetime, but there are some serious nutter-butters in the republican party at the moment.

Yeah, I want to see who this year's cast of clowns is before I consider who's the least clownish.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

And yet some laugh at having a larger field of candidates. Seems the Democratic field of candidates has always been running to the smaller (coronation, style)

In 2012, Obama (as the incumbent) obviously didn't face a primary; Republicans had Romney, Santorum and Gingrich.

In 2008, the Dems had Obama, Hillary and Edwards; Reps had McCain, Romney and Huckabee.

In 2004, Kerry, Edwards, Clark and Dean; no Republican primary.

In 2000, Gore; Reps had Bush and McCain.

In 1996, no Democratic primary; Reps had Dole, Buchanan and Forbes.

In 1992, Clinton, Tsongas, Jerry Brown, Bob Kerrey and Tom Harkin; no Republican primary.

The GOP might have a few extra folks like Bachmann who don't have a prayer, but for the most part, each party has 2-4 "serious" candidates each cycle and that's about it. The idea that the Democrats simply "coronate" their nominees is false.

* -- limiting the field to candidates who carried states.
 
Re: Will you vote for Hillary as ourr next President?

In 2012, Obama (as the incumbent) obviously didn't face a primary; Republicans had Romney, Santorum and Gingrich.

In 2008, the Dems had Obama, Hillary and Edwards; Reps had McCain, Romney and Huckabee.

In 2004, Kerry, Edwards, Clark and Dean; no Republican primary.

In 2000, Gore; Reps had Bush and McCain.

In 1996, no Democratic primary; Reps had Dole, Buchanan and Forbes.

In 1992, Clinton, Tsongas, Jerry Brown, Bob Kerrey and Tom Harkin; no Republican primary.

The GOP might have a few extra folks like Bachmann who don't have a prayer, but for the most part, each party has 2-4 "serious" candidates each cycle and that's about it. The idea that the Democrats simply "coronate" their nominees is false.* -- limiting the field to candidates who carried states.
I agree. This is sort of new for democrats who usually have a fairly wide open field. It is republicans who tend to go with 'the next guy in line.' That's how we got presidents Dole, McCain and Romney. In 2008, Hillary was a clear early favorite but had solid challengers in Obama and Edwards. This is really shaping up to be the first 'coronation' on the democrat side and I suspect it wont turn out well.
 
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